10-30-2014, 01:24 AM
I strongly dislike Math. I'll be the first to say I don't want to do more of it than I have to. ALEKS seemed like a quick and easy (AND CHEAP!) way to rack up some Math so I signed up two weeks ago.
My first ALEKS was Intro Statisitics (which I knew nothing about). I forget what my initial assessment was-I think it was about 45%. It only took me four assessments to pass, but I fought the ALEKS system for a solid week to complete enough pie progress to assess out of it. Then I took Int. Algebra as easy elective credit and passed the initial assessment using Algebra I remembered from high school 10 years ago. Got it done in a day while watching tv. Scored in the low 70's.
I was really nervous about College Algebra, a TESC requirement. I had taken a college level math class many years ago (not algebra per se, but lots of graphing and equations, much of which I don't remember) and did not know if TESC would accept it as the Algebra credit requirement. Tried emailing their advisers days ago, still no answer. I took the initial assessment (31 questions) and the questions seemed pretty easy. I used mathway a lot for my assessment like others on the forum suggested. Skipped a few word problems that looked hard.
I scored a 62%, which doesn't sound that bad. Until you pull up the pie and realize that their College Algebra is 514 topics. 514 TOPICS???!! So if it takes about 5 sections to earn about 1% of the class, I'd need maybe 40 ish pie lessons to reach my 70%. I did four lessons, checked my progress, and sure enough I was at 1%. I looked at the lessons on my pie and saw many topics that I was familiar with that were ON my initial assessment. My next thought was that I must've bombed my assessment. I started wondering if I'd made a couple stupid mistakes, landing me in ALEKS hell trying to finish 40 lessons + who knows how many assessments.
In a ballsy move, I deleted the assessment. Started over from scratch. And I think I've found a better strategy to taking an initial assessment with ALEKS.
I'm not about to start a debate about what qualifies as "cheating" on a non-proctored, untimed assessment. The truth is, this forum is full of motivated people that teach themselves how to test out of courses for college credit using available resources and it's not illegal. I read through the forum and I know there are some people that believe mathway and online calculators are enough to get you through. I now totally believe that those things can only ever work as TOOLS and may not be enough to pass an initial assessment. ALEKS isn't stupid. Shortcuts may get you some easy lower level answers but for courses like College Algebra, you won't get enough to completely escape a class. If you can't apply what you know to solve a word problem, you'll end up in the course. I gave some indication of that opinion on another thread as I was catching on to this. I also realize that some people enjoy the ALEKS course format. More power to you, I personally hate it.
My second initial assessment took me 2 days to complete. If I started to feel burned out or tired, I walked away from it. I treated it like an open book final exam. I did not skip a single question. I used a stack of paper to do problems by hand and I used google to search and study topics that I didn't know. I read through similar problems online and checked my answers using available resources like online graphing calculators before feeding the answer to ALEKS. And this time, the questions got progressively harder...a whole lot harder than my first assessment. I got into things the Mathway calculator can't touch. ALEKS started asking for answers in a particular format. Like "provide your answer as a log 10" "do not provide answers in decimal point format (ie wanting your root answer)" or "write as y=a(x-h)^2+k". At the end of the day, it's about knowing the material and this is one way ALEKS weeds out those who don't. This time I worked a little harder and scored a 90%, significantly better than trying to do it the easy way.
My first ALEKS was Intro Statisitics (which I knew nothing about). I forget what my initial assessment was-I think it was about 45%. It only took me four assessments to pass, but I fought the ALEKS system for a solid week to complete enough pie progress to assess out of it. Then I took Int. Algebra as easy elective credit and passed the initial assessment using Algebra I remembered from high school 10 years ago. Got it done in a day while watching tv. Scored in the low 70's.
I was really nervous about College Algebra, a TESC requirement. I had taken a college level math class many years ago (not algebra per se, but lots of graphing and equations, much of which I don't remember) and did not know if TESC would accept it as the Algebra credit requirement. Tried emailing their advisers days ago, still no answer. I took the initial assessment (31 questions) and the questions seemed pretty easy. I used mathway a lot for my assessment like others on the forum suggested. Skipped a few word problems that looked hard.
I scored a 62%, which doesn't sound that bad. Until you pull up the pie and realize that their College Algebra is 514 topics. 514 TOPICS???!! So if it takes about 5 sections to earn about 1% of the class, I'd need maybe 40 ish pie lessons to reach my 70%. I did four lessons, checked my progress, and sure enough I was at 1%. I looked at the lessons on my pie and saw many topics that I was familiar with that were ON my initial assessment. My next thought was that I must've bombed my assessment. I started wondering if I'd made a couple stupid mistakes, landing me in ALEKS hell trying to finish 40 lessons + who knows how many assessments.
In a ballsy move, I deleted the assessment. Started over from scratch. And I think I've found a better strategy to taking an initial assessment with ALEKS.
I'm not about to start a debate about what qualifies as "cheating" on a non-proctored, untimed assessment. The truth is, this forum is full of motivated people that teach themselves how to test out of courses for college credit using available resources and it's not illegal. I read through the forum and I know there are some people that believe mathway and online calculators are enough to get you through. I now totally believe that those things can only ever work as TOOLS and may not be enough to pass an initial assessment. ALEKS isn't stupid. Shortcuts may get you some easy lower level answers but for courses like College Algebra, you won't get enough to completely escape a class. If you can't apply what you know to solve a word problem, you'll end up in the course. I gave some indication of that opinion on another thread as I was catching on to this. I also realize that some people enjoy the ALEKS course format. More power to you, I personally hate it.
My second initial assessment took me 2 days to complete. If I started to feel burned out or tired, I walked away from it. I treated it like an open book final exam. I did not skip a single question. I used a stack of paper to do problems by hand and I used google to search and study topics that I didn't know. I read through similar problems online and checked my answers using available resources like online graphing calculators before feeding the answer to ALEKS. And this time, the questions got progressively harder...a whole lot harder than my first assessment. I got into things the Mathway calculator can't touch. ALEKS started asking for answers in a particular format. Like "provide your answer as a log 10" "do not provide answers in decimal point format (ie wanting your root answer)" or "write as y=a(x-h)^2+k". At the end of the day, it's about knowing the material and this is one way ALEKS weeds out those who don't. This time I worked a little harder and scored a 90%, significantly better than trying to do it the easy way.