Clarify AOS overlap between two BSBA majors

[jazzcat]

TESU policy states:
https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...es-policy/
No credit for the first area of study may be used toward the second area of study.

Thanks to my many RA transfer credits, I have only to complete Gen Ed and Business Core courses to graduate with BSBA-OM. However, I need the BSBA-CIS, which means I need to complete another 18-21 credits of course work (specifically the entire AOS), in addition to the overlapping Gen Ed and Business Core courses between the two majors (AOS).

Am I correct in understanding that as long as only the 18-credits of AOS don't overlap between CIS and OM (which they don't at all, per syllabus), I'll be able to graduate with BSBA-OM and -CIS on my degree? When applying to graduate, do I just specify that I declare two areas of study? I'm presently enrolled in BSBA-CIS, as this is the degree I actually require.

Afterwards I may do a Certificate in Finance just for fun. If that's not enough, I might try for a Master's in the coming years, maybe from a different university.

[rachel83az]

In order to graduate with another degree, and a certificate, you need to have them added to your degree plan. Since the AOS don't overlap at all, there should be no problems at all with getting both the CIS and OM.

[bjcheung77]

@jazzcat, in regards to the Cert in Finance, you can get that practically free at TESU as they offer the cert.  You just need to complete the 18 credits for the cert and apply for graduation, these can all be ACE/NCCRS credits from Study.com, Davar, or another provider...

For the BSBA, you actually only have one major, and that's Business Administration, you can get two AOS within that major though.  As mentioned, you shouldn't come across any issues as those two AOS do not have overlapping credits.

Last but not least, have you decided on TESU and not WGU or UMPI as you were looking at those other institutions as well.  Did you add any credits to your portfolio since your previous post of about a year ago?  Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid360128

[dfrecore]

The CIS and OM AoS courses don't overlap at all.

You only need 18cr in any of the BSBA AoS's, not 21.

[jazzcat]

The CIS and OM AoS courses don't overlap at all.

You only need 18cr in any of the BSBA AoS's, not 21.

Thank you, yes AOS is only 18 cr., I think I'm missing some other course specific to CIS that's why I was saying 18-21 credits in my mind. But yes, AOS is only 18 cr.

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@jazzcat, in regards to the Cert in Finance, you can get that practically free at TESU as they offer the cert.  You just need to complete the 18 credits for the cert and apply for graduation, these can all be ACE/NCCRS credits from Study.com, Davar, or another provider...

For the BSBA, you actually only have one major, and that's Business Administration, you can get two AOS within that major though.  As mentioned, you shouldn't come across any issues as those two AOS do not have overlapping credits.

Last but not least, have you decided on TESU and not WGU or UMPI as you were looking at those other institutions as well.  Did you add any credits to your portfolio since your previous post of about a year ago?  Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid360128

Thanks BJ, yes I'm mixing terminology between AOS and major. Will get that into my head. And thanks for clarifying the Finance cert, will certainly look at taking alt credits and transferring in.

TESU is my best option for graduating for a reasonable price with a title I need. The dual AOS is a bonus, as I've already filled all the requisites for OM. Yes, I've gathered a some more credits since last year. But even with that, the decision is largely based on the maximum amount of credits TESU is offering to accept from my previous college experience with a degree titled that will be most useful in my use case. UMPI was a good alternative BABA title, but WGU leaves me with 70+ credits outstanding, while TESU grants BSBA and 35 credits outstanding for BSBA-OM (only Gen Ed and Bus Core, which I'll need to do for CIS anyways) and around 18 cr more for CIS second AOS.

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The major bummer with TESU is they won't accept transfer credits for courses with C- grade or lower, so I've lost potential to use about 2-5 courses in applicable transfer credit, but they've been generous enough with other course equivalencies that I'll just suffer through and do accounting over and whatever else needs to be done. who knows, it might be easier and more fun this time around.

[jazzcat]

After clicking around some more in the TESU student portal, it seems I can also graduate from the AAS Military Tech Leadership with SOS-101 and capstone, so I think I'll do it---why not?! Probably useless, but it sounds cool.

[bjcheung77]

After clicking around some more in the TESU student portal, it seems I can also graduate from the AAS Military Tech Leadership with SOS-101 and capstone, so I think I'll do it---why not?! Probably useless, but it sounds cool.

Did you ask about adding the degree?  Just wondering are you active military or a vet?
I would check with TESU to find out if you can take the degree and also review other AAS options.

AAS programs available at TESU - https://www.tesu.edu/ast/programs/aas
**available only to current military personnel and veterans

Link: https://www.tesu.edu/ast/programs/aas/mi...leadership
* This option is only available to military personnel.

[jazzcat]

**available only to current military personnel and veterans

Bah. I got too excited and didn't read the fine print. Thanks for pointing that out.

In any case, having all the AOS courses done for BSBA-OM is a pleasant surprise, as TESU isn't as generous in assigning credits compared to UMPI. However, with some probing, TESU did assign some more credits to me from transfers. I only have to do Gen Ed and Business Core, as well as four CIS AOS courses, around 42 credits total for two AOS to graduate (the cores overlap, but CIS needs me to do a dozen AOS credits). Makes me a happy camper. Will consider how I approach the Finance cert, since it makes sense to graduate with it all at once and not pay residency or do 50% of the courses post graduation from the degree program. However, that requires me to do an additional 9-12 credits (still waiting on an answer there). Maybe I'll skip it altogether, it's not a requisite, just a point of interest. Going to UMPI would save me a little money but I'd still be doing about as much course work. But Bachelor of Science and "computer" and "management" are the keywords I need on paper and TESU offers that.