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Charter Oak State College - New Degree in B.S. Business Administration
#71
Thanks although I'm not sure what's wrong with using this thread. There are several helpful replies. If it's a board etiquette thing, apologies. I figured reviving this thread might be helpful due to the older information in it for anyone else who's curious.
#72
topdog98 Wrote:For COSC, you must take two courses, the cornerstone and the capstone. You can test out of the other requirements. In addition to the general education requirements, you would need these courses for a Business degree:

Business Administration - Charter Oak State College Catalog

Thanks - so in theory, I could test out of everything else, and take only two classes (capstone and cornerstone)? But, is it feasible to place out of that many hours of business classes without ever actually taking business classes?

I looked at a Saylor class. If you add up the hours they suggest for each section, it totals about 105 hours. If I actually spent 105 hours on it, that's probably two tough weeks (balanced with work). Multiply that by nine classes, and it's about 18 tough weeks. However, I haven't actually taken one of these. It's possible that 105 would be if you went very slowly and tried to get a perfect score, but you can get a passing score by putting 10 cram hours in. I really have no idea.

Thanks again.
#73
AJ_Atlanta Wrote:At a minimum you would need the required courses in Business Ethics, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, and Business Statistics. I am not sure what other credits you have and how they might transfer at COSU but I am sure others will chime in

My assumption is that I have no transferrable business credits.

This was a long time ago (over 20 years), so I might have forgotten one, but I doubt it.

I am also assuming I can't get credit for a non-credit certificate in financial management, or a scrum master certificate or the like. Or "life experience" in general.

So, my assumption (would love to be wrong!) is that I'll need 33 hours of business credits one way or the other.
#74
You can indeed get credit for certs, professional courses and "life experience". The process is called Prior Learning Assessment or PLA for short. You can find several threads here on the process. Basically you write a portfolio documenting how your experience has taught you what you would have learned in a college course on a subject. A subject matter expert evaluates your portfolio and decides whether to award credit. As you can see in my signature, I earned 15 credits in my area of study that way.
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TECEP:Env Ethics (2015); TESU PLA:Software Eng, Computer Arch, C++, Advanced C++, Data Struct (2015); TESU Courses:Capstone, Database Mngmnt Sys, Op Sys, Artificial Intel, Discrete Math, Intro to Portfolio Dev, Intro PLA (2014-16); DSST:Anthro, Pers Fin, Astronomy (2014); CLEP:Intro to Soc (2014); Saylor.org:Intro to Computers (2014); CC: 69 units (1980-88)

PLA Tips Thread - TESU: What is in a Portfolio?
#75
If you are going to do a PLA for you previous work/certs you may as well do the free PLA class via Kaplan, its ACE accredited and will get you 3 credits just in case you need some. Besides it shows you how to do a PLA and you will need to know.
#76
Kjnova Wrote:My assumption is that I have no transferrable business credits.

This was a long time ago (over 20 years), so I might have forgotten one, but I doubt it.

I am also assuming I can't get credit for a non-credit certificate in financial management, or a scrum master certificate or the like. Or "life experience" in general.

So, my assumption (would love to be wrong!) is that I'll need 33 hours of business credits one way or the other.

Hello Kjnova,

We're in the same shoes, I am starting pretty much from scratch as well. There is PLA for prior learning assessments that will gauge your learning and how you learned it, then subject matter experts will be deciding if its comparable to college classes learned. If you would like that option, it's offered at COSC, TESU and EC.

The reason why I didn't go for it is because I know that the training I have gone through is just too different than a traditional class, the other courses I took wouldn't go into a transfer either as they were not accredited. It will take a few weeks for your evaluation to come back. The other reason I also didn't go for it is the cost per course evaluation.
Portfolio Assessment https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...t_fees.cfm

You might want to follow this thread as it has details on getting cheap/fast credits for COSC. There are member recommndations. I think you may have some general education and electives filled, you just need a spreadsheet and plan those courses before taking them.
http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...ree-5.html

You may want to search the forums for answers and previous posts. Hope this helps,
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#77
bjcheung77 Wrote:... The other reason I also didn't go for it is the cost per course evaluation.
Portfolio Assessment https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...t_fees.cfm
..,
Wow, it's much cheaper at TESU. You might be able to do it there and transfer. I also know you can do it at Kaplan but I know nothing about what it costs there or its transferability.
NanoDegree: Intro to Self-Driving Cars (2019)
Coursera: Stanford Machine Learning (2019)
TESU: BA in Comp Sci (2016)
TECEP:Env Ethics (2015); TESU PLA:Software Eng, Computer Arch, C++, Advanced C++, Data Struct (2015); TESU Courses:Capstone, Database Mngmnt Sys, Op Sys, Artificial Intel, Discrete Math, Intro to Portfolio Dev, Intro PLA (2014-16); DSST:Anthro, Pers Fin, Astronomy (2014); CLEP:Intro to Soc (2014); Saylor.org:Intro to Computers (2014); CC: 69 units (1980-88)

PLA Tips Thread - TESU: What is in a Portfolio?
#78
Several here have used the Prior Learning Assessment Scholarship to fund this at COSC.
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#79
Reviving this twice-dead thread! Because since my prior posts, I 1) got busy with job-related stuff and set this aside, then 2) actually applied to COSC's business program and got my transfer credit evaluation.

This is what I need:

1 cornerstone (sigh)
1 math
1 oral communication
1 financial accounting class
1 managerial accounting class
1 business law class
1 info systems management class
1 principles of management class
1 principles of marketing class
1 financial management class OR corporate finance class
1 organizational behavior class
3 classes in my concentration, which I selected as Organizational Management (but am open to changing) - there are many classes that meet this requirement
1 microeconomics class
1 macroeconomics class
1 capstone

So that is 15 classes, plus the two required ones (cornerstone and capstone).

I have not yet pursued credit for a portfolio (I have years of management, including working as a manager for Fortune 500 companies, and starting a couple of small companies), or my eCornell non-credit certification in Financial Management, or my Scrum Alliance cert as a scrum master.

Does this sound pretty feasible to you guys? And ... as a comparison, I could get a "general studies" or "liberal arts" type degree with more like five classes. My belief is that a) a business degree will be more useful in my field, b) I am well positioned to test out of a lot of business classes. Are those reasonable assumptions?

Maybe mid-career with an established track record, I would be better served getting a "general studies" type degree and then pursuing some other certification or studies to go with it, vs the 17 classes I would need to account for to get this business degree?

If I do pursue the business degree, I notice many business credits are available on study.com. I like self-directed learning that I can slip in a few minutes between meetings or work on at off hours. I have never used study.com. Is it a good option? Are there better, similar options for what I am doing?

Thanks in advance for your wisdom - KJ
#80
Remember that COSC will require 30 upper level credits....so you can't just take things anywhere...at least 18 UL will have to be within the main concentration (maybe more for an actual business degree). there are some DSST that are UL, Penn Foster has some more...Penn Foster might work for th ebulk of it if you did the Org. Mngt with an HR secondary.


Kjnova Wrote:Reviving this twice-dead thread! Because since my prior posts, I 1) got busy with job-related stuff and set this aside, then 2) actually applied to COSC's business program and got my transfer credit evaluation.

This is what I need:

1 cornerstone (sigh)
1 math
1 oral communication
1 financial accounting class
1 managerial accounting class
1 business law class
1 info systems management class
1 principles of management class
1 principles of marketing class
1 financial management class OR corporate finance class
1 organizational behavior class
3 classes in my concentration, which I selected as Organizational Management (but am open to changing) - there are many classes that meet this requirement
1 microeconomics class
1 macroeconomics class
1 capstone

So that is 15 classes, plus the two required ones (cornerstone and capstone).

I have not yet pursued credit for a portfolio (I have years of management, including working as a manager for Fortune 500 companies, and starting a couple of small companies), or my eCornell non-credit certification in Financial Management, or my Scrum Alliance cert as a scrum master.

Does this sound pretty feasible to you guys? And ... as a comparison, I could get a "general studies" or "liberal arts" type degree with more like five classes. My belief is that a) a business degree will be more useful in my field, b) I am well positioned to test out of a lot of business classes. Are those reasonable assumptions?

Maybe mid-career with an established track record, I would be better served getting a "general studies" type degree and then pursuing some other certification or studies to go with it, vs the 17 classes I would need to account for to get this business degree?

If I do pursue the business degree, I notice many business credits are available on study.com. I like self-directed learning that I can slip in a few minutes between meetings or work on at off hours. I have never used study.com. Is it a good option? Are there better, similar options for what I am doing?

Thanks in advance for your wisdom - KJ
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