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(This post was last modified: 03-11-2016, 01:50 PM by TrailRunr.)
Slow version that I went through years ago:
My original B&M school won't take CLEP, DSST, FEMA, ACE, CBE, etc. AP credits don't count towards GE and sometimes don't count towards the major. They routinely reject transfer credits from regionally accredited schools such as vocational classes. The major department heavily restricts how many courses I could transfer in to graduate (max of 6 credits) and I already used that up. There was a residence requirement of 24 of the last 30 credits. I had well over 120 credits, but I was still 2 credits away from a BA. And it was a pain to finally earn the last 2 credits because I no longer lived near the school. Online courses don't exist that satisfy residency. I ended up begging faculty for independent study research with periodic meetings and got my degree a couple of months later.
Express lane version:
At TESU, I sign up for a morning DSST to get my last 2 UL credits and I'm a graduate by lunch time.
Edit to add:
OP - Do you really think most of us enjoy taking these exams or classes? At least I don't. I want to do the least possible amount of work and get the degree. But all of us are doers and do it anyway.
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High_Order1 Wrote:Very simply,
Few things bug me. One of them is duplicity. I don't enjoy it when a person tells me the same thing multiple times. I don't really care for taking the same training over and over, unless there are perishable skills and / or new things.
I have no, *zero* interest in taking one more writing course. I have no interest in slogging through any more physical science courses.
One of the nice things about these degrees is that you don't have to take another course to show that you have mastered a skill; you take a CLEP/ DSST/ TECEP exam and come out a few hours later with college credit.
I think I may have missed it, but do you actually have college credit for a writing course? English Comp I, Technical Writing, AP credit from high school, anything of that nature? If you took one and got at least a C, then more options open up to you.
BA, MA, EdS, MMT, etc.
83 hours of ACE-worthy credits
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To answer the questions...
1- Yes, I do think many of you enjoy the pursuit. A few years ago, I'd told you without hesitation I love training. And taking courses. I know people who have spent their entire time in academia as a student.
For some reason, like the thing in the turkey, my button for taking classes I have no interest in popped out about a year ago....
2- No, I don't have any college writing courses under my belt. I have a few writing modules from various certification classes I've had to go to, and I've been a paid writer. I'm trying to warm up to the idea of being able to test out without a great deal of heartache and studying, though. I'd rather they just accept one or more of the previous learnings and let me move on, but I see that you really have to have the core basics, especially if you want the degree to be applicable to future degree seeking.
Happy time change errybody! lol
Bachelor of Arts in Liberal Studies Thomas Edison State University 2018
Cert in Emergency Management - Three Rivers CC 2017
Cert in Basic Police Ed - Walters State CC 1996
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Adding to my credit list:
ACE accepted an advanced security guard course (32 hours) G4S / Wackenhut put on, and one course from the National Fire Academy.
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Cert in Emergency Management - Three Rivers CC 2017
Cert in Basic Police Ed - Walters State CC 1996
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Charter Oak:
Degree Requirements
Students at Charter Oak State College work with an Academic Counselor to complete their degree based on their own unique academic and professional goals. As such, the degree completion credit options vary depending on individual choice. However, all degrees require a minimum of 120 credits. Credit requirements can be fulfilled by:
Completing Charter Oak's online courses,
Transferring credits from classroom-based and online courses offered by regionally accredited colleges and universities, including up to 90 community college credits,
Completing college-level fire, police or military training, or
Proving prior learning through portfolio assessment or college-level examinations such as CLEP and DANTES.
In addition to all general educational and liberal arts requirements, an "Academic Concentration" (36 credits) is also required to earn a bachelor's degree from Charter Oak State College. Students can fulfill the Public Safety Administration concentration by completing Charter Oak's public safety concentration courses.
The concentration plan of study (CPS) is the tool you will use to plan your degree completion program. The Public Safety Administration CPS forms offer information on how subject requirements can be met.
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I am glad you are still investigating, OP. I'm also glad the COSC uses the term "credits" instead of "hours." That avoids the confusion some people encounter over the difference between contact hours and Carnegie student hours/ credits (one college credit being "... the equivalent of one hour (50 minutes) of lecture time for a single student per week over the course of a semester, usually 14 to 16 weeks," from Wikipedia). In effect, a 3-credit course represents about 45 contact hours.
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KayV Wrote:I'm also glad the COSC uses the term "credits" instead of "hours."
I was just on the WGU site that Tennessee is pimping hard. First, they don't charge or allow per credit hour. You pay about 3k per term. More you get done, cheaper it becomes. lol They also don't 'do' credits, but something like education hours or something fruity.
I'm absolutely certain there is a reason to not use credits, but I can't imagine what it might be.
I completed the TEEX Information for Everyone three course track.
Turns out what I thought ethics is and what academia thinks it is are 180 degrees off each other. Really struggled with the terms and some of the concepts.
If you see a dollar bill, you don't steal it, because it's the right thing to do. Under ethics, one flavor of ethics says its' all right if it furthers the greater good. (shakes head).
I just signed up for the free spin through straighterline, and I am requesting opinions in another thread about some kentucky core class credits.
Thanks for the encouragement!
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High_Order1 Wrote:I was just on the WGU site that Tennessee is pimping hard. First, they don't charge or allow per credit hour. You pay about 3k per term. More you get done, cheaper it becomes. lol They also don't 'do' credits, but something like education hours or something fruity.
I'm absolutely certain there is a reason to not use credits, but I can't imagine what it might be.
I completed the TEEX Information for Everyone three course track.
Turns out what I thought ethics is and what academia thinks it is are 180 degrees off each other. Really struggled with the terms and some of the concepts.
If you see a dollar bill, you don't steal it, because it's the right thing to do. Under ethics, one flavor of ethics says its' all right if it furthers the greater good. (shakes head).
I just signed up for the free spin through straighterline, and I am requesting opinions in another thread about some kentucky core class credits.
Thanks for the encouragement!
WGU uses competency units. There are other competency-based schools that use semester or quarter hours, which are more traditional. WGU's competency units are similar to semester hours.
Ethics are not black and white. Under utilitarianism, if your children are starving and you can buy a few packs of Ramen noodles or some hot dogs with that dollar bill, then it would be ethical to steal it and unethical to let your children starve to death.
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CLEP
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DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
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Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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A&P
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sanantone Wrote:Ethics are not black and white. Under utilitarianism, if your children are starving and you can buy a few packs of Ramen noodles or some hot dogs with that dollar bill, then it would be ethical to steal it and unethical to let your children starve to death.
Yeah! "Your honor, my client adheres to the principles of utilitarianism." "Not Guilty!"
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High_Order1 Wrote:Yeah! "Your honor, my client adheres to the principles of utilitarianism." "Not Guilty!"
Ethics and law are two different things. Many unethical actions are legal while some ethical actions are illegal. However, most judges and police officers will have mercy on you. That is why they have discretion. A prosecutor probably wouldn't waste time on a case of someone stealing a dollar to buy food.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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