CSM course as a math req

[natshar]

So I just talked to a friend. He is severly bad at at math appreantly. He dropped out of college 3 credits shy of graduating and it was math. (Idk the major or school at this time but he said over 100 credits and 3 cr away from graduating, presumably non-stem major). He couldn't even pass remedial math. I was going to tell him about CSM course because that is the easiest course for thsoe bad at math ever. Plus it works with you like even if you bad at it might take a long time and be slow and frustrating but if you kept working it'd be hard to fail. I want to help him.
Just wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on which schools/majors accept CSM as the only math course requirement. I'll also see if he wants to do Peirpont too.
I'm thinking TESU BA Liberal studies would be the easiest. Any other thoughts would be be appreciated.

[bjcheung77]

Hmm, interesting... With so many credits, we don't know if he has upper level ones... I would go a slightly different route instead of TESU BALS (with or without a concentration). I would suggest the Pierpont BOG AAS and ladder into the UMPI BAS or BLS with a minor or two, maybe even three minors if he is up for the challenge. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid395900

[natshar]

I don't have all the details. I will have to get them from him. But all I know is 3 cr shy from graduating RA USA school. I think I know the State the school is in too and think its a public Uni. Idk though. I'll get the details later. Also all credits are 5 years at the oldest I think.

[LevelUP]

So I just talked to a friend. He is severly bad at at math appreantly. He dropped out of college 3 credits shy of graduating and it was math. (Idk the major or school at this time but he said over 100 credits and 3 cr away from graduating, presumably non-stem major). He couldn't even pass remedial math. I was going to tell him about CSM course because that is the easiest course for thsoe bad at math ever. Plus it works with you like even if you bad at it might take a long time and be slow and frustrating but if you kept working it'd be hard to fail. I want to help him.
Just wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on which schools/majors accept CSM as the only math course requirement. I'll also see if he wants to do Peirpont too.
I'm thinking TESU BA Liberal studies would be the easiest. Any other thoughts would be be appreciated.

This is a sad story, but it's a pretty common thing that happens to a lot of college students where they fall through the cracks.

There is no such thing as a math gene, foreign language gene, or writing gene. I believe that given enough time and proper guidance, you can learn anything. That being said, it's a better use of time to focus on the quickest path to get from point A to point B and not get caught up trying to become a math expert.

I could probably help someone pass Sophia's Calculus course easier and quicker than I could help them pass an in-person College Algebra or Statistics course.

Forget CSM. Any college we recommend will require College Algebra or Statistics, which I would spend 40 hours on and fail Sophia's class first before I started to get desperate and look for tutors or other options.

CUNY accepts Math for Liberal Arts or College Mathematics. That could be an option for someone with lots of transfer credits. They also have a Liberal Studies degree.
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/CU...egree_Plan
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/CU...egree_Plan

UMPI or TESU is probably the quickest to earn a college degree depending on how the credits transfer in.

[bjcheung77]

@natshar, In addition to the above... aren't there any community colleges out there that offer an intro to math course as long as it's transferable to that final institution they'll graduate in? If so, check out Clovis, Luna, NMJC, or whatever else that is available on the WIKI. I would usually recommend CLEP/ACE options, but we don't know if the institution will take these...

[inoele]

So I just talked to a friend. He is severly bad at at math appreantly. He dropped out of college 3 credits shy of graduating and it was math. (Idk the major or school at this time but he said over 100 credits and 3 cr away from graduating, presumably non-stem major). He couldn't even pass remedial math. I was going to tell him about CSM course because that is the easiest course for thsoe bad at math ever. Plus it works with you like even if you bad at it might take a long time and be slow and frustrating but if you kept working it'd be hard to fail. I want to help him.
Just wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on which schools/majors accept CSM as the only math course requirement. I'll also see if he wants to do Peirpont too.
I'm thinking TESU BA Liberal studies would be the easiest. Any other thoughts would be be appreciated.

On the CSM College Credit page, it lists all the colleges that accept CSM as a MATH course and colleges that just accept it as an elective. Then it would be to see if any of those listed colleges have more than 3 credits of math requirement. If they have only 3, then that should work as the only one. Otherwise, someone may need more math depending on their General Education requirements. It would for sure satisfy Pierpont's General Ed requirements.
https://www.smilabs.org/products/collegecredit

[studyingfortests]

For what it's worth, a significant part of my decision as to where to go to finish my bachelor's came down to who would accept the CSMLearn course as a math credit.

Excelsior refused, under the ridiculous excuse that because I had taken the course before Excelsior signed a piece of paper with the CSMLearn people, even though it was the *exact same course* and one of the principals of CSMLearn interceded, and had I taken the course 6 months later they would have accepted it. Their loss.

Charter Oak accepted it... but only as an elective.

Thus, for that, and many other reasons, Thomas Edison became my school of choice, because they accepted it without question. And I've been very happy with my decision.

[rachel83az]

Forget CSM. Any college we recommend will require College Algebra or Statistics, which I would spend 40 hours on and fail Sophia's class first before I started to get desperate and look for tutors or other options.

This is not true. Unless TESU has changed its policies recently, it will accept CSM for the math requirement! TESU students may also opt to complete "Introduction to College Mathematics" from Sophia which will come in as MAT-1050 Applied Liberal Arts Mathematics. Either of these are going to be WAY easier than any in-person math class.

natshar, please try to get your friend to come here and create his own account. That way we can find out directly exactly what he has and what would be the best school for his needs. TESU will probably be it, but it's difficult to recommend anything without details.

[LevelUP]

Forget CSM. Any college we recommend will require College Algebra or Statistics, which I would spend 40 hours on and fail Sophia's class first before I started to get desperate and look for tutors or other options.

This is not true. Unless TESU has changed its policies recently, it will accept CSM for the math requirement! TESU students may also opt to complete "Introduction to College Mathematics" from Sophia which will come in as MAT-1050 Applied Liberal Arts Mathematics. Either of these are going to be WAY easier than any in-person math class.

natshar, please try to get your friend to come here and create his own account. That way we can find out directly exactly what he has and what would be the best school for his needs. TESU will probably be it, but it's difficult to recommend anything without details.

I probably should have be more clear and said "will likely require College Algebra and/or Statistics."  You can find some exceptions, as I pointed out with CUNY College.

With TESU, their business and some other degrees do require Stats.  Stats might be a good alternative to College Algebra since you don't need much previous experience in math to do that course.

[rachel83az]

If all you want is a Liberal Studies degree at TESU, CSM is sufficient. For most BA degrees, CSM is also sufficient. The exception is Psychology (where Stats is required) and Computer Science (where Calculus is required). Stats, especially Sophia stats, may indeed be easier for some students than Algebra. Many math-wary/math-phobic students or students with dyscalculia here have confirmed that Sophia's Stats courses were (relatively) easy.