Business Communication Course Help!!!

[Toastmaster]

Greetings everyone!  I took a couple years off and now I am back to finish my final 3 classes.  Public Speaking, International Management, and Business Communications. My issue is with Business Communications.  I am in the 2017 Catalog still (thankfully), and during this time one could take the Managerial Communications course from Saylor.org (Which I did) and take the Business Communications course from StraighterLine and essentially knock out two birds with one stone.  The Saylor course would come in as Man 373 and the SL course would come in as COM- 300.
Well, apparently the way TESU takes the Business Communications course has changed.  It appears to have been downgraded from COM-300 to COM-202.  This appears to be the case for Study.com's version of the course as well.  My question is, does it matter?  I can't recall the exact reasoning for taking the Saylor and the SL courses together beyond them covering similar topics.  I DO have the SL course still listed as an "approved" course in my Academic Evaluation.  I do not know if this will "stick" however, if you get what I mean.  Basically, I just want to confirm, if anyone still knows, of it is okay to still take a Business Communications course from either SL or Study.com.  I did reach out to Academic Advising, and they were as useless as I remember.  Seriously, you should see the email they sent me to my query. ??‍♂️

[bjcheung77]

Did you do the capstone? It's missing from the courses in BOLD. Yes, I'm so curious what the email says in your inquiry to them! Also copy/paste your evaluation without your personal details, let's find out what courses can go where. Did the Saylor.org course come in as Upper Level? If it did, then you don't have to worry about the Lower Level from StraighterLine or Study.com at all. The spots are all good from what I can tell without looking at your evaluation...

[Toastmaster]

Did you do the capstone? It's missing from the courses in BOLD.  Yes, I'm so curious what the email says in your inquiry to them!  Also copy/paste your evaluation without your personal details, let's find out what courses can go where.  Did the Saylor.org course come in as Upper Level? If it did, then you don't have to worry about the Lower Level from StraighterLine or Study.com at all.  The spots are all good from what I can tell without looking at your evaluation...

Yes, I did the capstone.

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Did you do the capstone? It's missing from the courses in BOLD.  Yes, I'm so curious what the email says in your inquiry to them!  Also copy/paste your evaluation without your personal details, let's find out what courses can go where.  Did the Saylor.org course come in as Upper Level? If it did, then you don't have to worry about the Lower Level from StraighterLine or Study.com at all.  The spots are all good from what I can tell without looking at your evaluation...

My email to them:


Student Name: XXXXX
Student ID: XXXXX
ATTN: XXXXX
 
Hi!  I'm reaching out to see what are the names of the courses that I need to complete to finish my B.S.B.A. General Management?
 
Please do not count the transfer courses from E.C.C., I am aware of those.
 
Attached is a copy of my current ACE Transcript.
 
Thank you for your help!
 
- XXXXXX

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Did you do the capstone? It's missing from the courses in BOLD.  Yes, I'm so curious what the email says in your inquiry to them!  Also copy/paste your evaluation without your personal details, let's find out what courses can go where.  Did the Saylor.org course come in as Upper Level? If it did, then you don't have to worry about the Lower Level from StraighterLine or Study.com at all.  The spots are all good from what I can tell without looking at your evaluation...

Yes, I did the capstone.

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Did you do the capstone? It's missing from the courses in BOLD.  Yes, I'm so curious what the email says in your inquiry to them!  Also copy/paste your evaluation without your personal details, let's find out what courses can go where.  Did the Saylor.org course come in as Upper Level? If it did, then you don't have to worry about the Lower Level from StraighterLine or Study.com at all.  The spots are all good from what I can tell without looking at your evaluation...

My email to them:


Student Name: XXXXX
Student ID: XXXXX
ATTN: XXXXX
 
Hi!  I'm reaching out to see what are the names of the courses that I need to complete to finish my B.S.B.A. General Management?
 
Please do not count the transfer courses from E.C.C., I am aware of those.
 
Attached is a copy of my current ACE Transcript.
 
Thank you for your help!
 
- XXXXXX

Their response to my email:

XXXXX - Misspelled name,
 
Please access your evaluation to view the approvals for your remaining degree requirements. You can identify the ones pending from E.C.C, which is source number 2 and the pending courses from ACE, which is source number 3. 
 
All of these options had been previously planned based on prior conversations. I hope this answers your question.

XXXXXX
Senior Academic Program Advisor
Thomas Edison State University

[Toastmaster]

Attached is a copy of my ACE Transcript. I'll upload a copy of my Academic Evaluation later. Moodle/OSS has been down all morning, smh.

[Toastmaster]

Academic Evaluation
Report Date: 06/11/20

Program:
BSBA in General Management (BSBA.GENMG1)
Catalog Year:
2017
[size=undefined][size=undefined]Program Summary: [b](Pending (Anticipated complete))[/b]
!! Exception: Credit overage in Electives.
Semester Hours (SH) Required:
121.00
SH Applied to Degree:
86.00
SH Remaining:
35.00
SH To Be Planned:
0.00
Thomas Edison State University GPA Needed:
2.000
Thomas Edison State University GPA Earned:
3.957
Overall Degree GPA Needed:
2.000
Overall Degree GPA Requirement Met:
Yes
Community College SH (90 SH Maximum):
18.50[/size][/size]

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These institutions/organizations are those from which credit has been applied toward your degree requirements. Use the number next to the institution in this list to identify the original source of a transfer course on your Academic Evaluation.
1 Erie CC
2 TESU-ACE
3 TESU-Planned
4 Thomas Edison State Univ
Program Requirements:
1: BSBA General Education (60 SH)[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
SH Earned: 60.5
Complete all 6 subrequirements:

A: IntellecSkills 15 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to Intellectual and Practical Skills Courses

SH Earned: 15
ENC-101 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
English Composition I
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes1
EN110
College Composition
02/02/22
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( 3.00)
ENC-101
*CC
*PL
*PTE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
ENC-102 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
English Composition II
3
ENC-102
English Composition II
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
ENC-102
*PL
*PTE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Oral Communication 3 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
3
COM-108
Fundamentals of Speech
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
COM-108
*PL
*PTE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
MAT121 or MAT-119 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
College Algebra or Quantitative Business Analysis (DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
2
MAT-121
College Algebra
11/08/16
CR
3.00
MAT-121
*NE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Information Literacy 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
2
REL-277
Intro to World Religions
10/10/16
CR
3.00
REL-277
*NE
B: Civic Learning 9 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to Civic and Global Leadership Courses

SH Earned: 8
Diversity 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
SOC-101
Introduction to Sociology
11/04/16
CR
3.00
SOC-101
*NE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Ethics 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
!! Exception Meets requirement.
2
PHI-384
Ethics & Business Professional
11/09/15
CR
2.00
PHI-384
*NE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Civic Engagement 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
2
POS-110
American Government
09/30/16
CR
3.00
POS-110
*NE
C: Human Cultures 9 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to Knowledge of Human Cultures Courses
Humanities and/or Social Sciences
SH Earned: 9
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
HIS-102
Western Civilization II
10/14/16
CR
3.00
HIS-102
*NE
2
ANT-150
Cultural Anthropology I
10/12/16
CR
3.00
ANT-150
*NE
2
HIS-101
Western Civilization I
10/03/16
CR
3.00
HIS-101
*NE
D: Natural World 4 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to Understanding Physical and Natural World Courses
SH Earned: 5
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
CIS-344
Computer Security
02/16/17
CR
2.00
CIS-344
*NE
2
ENS-200
Environmental Science
10/19/16
CR
3.00
ENS-200
*NE
E: Mathematics 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to BUS 210 Quantitative Methods for Decision Makers
or STA-201 Principles of Statistics
(DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
STA-201
Principles of Statistics
11/17/16
CR
3.00
STA-201
*NE
F: GE Electives[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to TES-100 Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies Course
and General Education Elective Courses
Beginning July 1, 2019 all students who have not completed TES-100 by June 30, 2019 will be required to take SOS-110 (3 credits), in lieu of TES-100. SOS-110 may be used to fulfill the required Information Literacy requirement or as an elective in all undergraduate degree programs.

SH Earned: 20.5
TES-100 1 SH[b] (Waived)[/b]
!! Exception The TES-100 Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies course is not required for you as an individual degree requirement because you meet the established waiver criteria; you are a corporate choice partner student, or have 104 or more credits at application. You may still wish to take this course, which will fulfill 1 semester hour of general education elective requirement.
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Academic Evaluation Continued
[size=undefined][size=undefined]Additional General Education Electives 19 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
!! Exception Adjusted due to TES-100 waiver. 20 SH required.
SH Earned: 20.5
2
MAT-115
Intermediate Algebra
11/04/16
CR
3.00
MAT-115
*NE
2
HIS-113
American History I
10/02/16
CR
3.00
HIS-113
*NE
2
HIS-114
American History II
10/01/16
CR
3.00
HIS-114
*NE
2
HIS-127
Survey of World History
08/30/16
CR
3.00
HIS-127
*NE
4
PLA-100
Intro Prior Learning Assessmnt
2019JAN
A-
1.00


3
AOJ-102
Intro. to Criminal Justi
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
AOJ-102
*PL
*PTE
1
SP110
Elementary Spanish
02/02/22
---
( 4.50)
SPA-101
*CC
*PL
*PTE

2: Core (36SH)[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
SH Earned: 38
Complete all 10 subrequirements:

A: Accounting 6 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to ACC-101 Principles of Financial Accounting
AND ACC-102 Principles of Managerial Accounting

SH Earned: 8
Group 1[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
SH Earned: 8
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes1
BU122
Accounting Princ II
02/02/22
---
( 4.00)
ACC-101
*CC
*PL
*PTE
1
BU121
Accounting Principles I
02/02/22
---
( 4.00)
ACC-102
*CC
*PL
*PTE
B: Business Law 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to LAW-201 Business Law
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
LAW-201
Business Law
09/30/16
CR
3.00
LAW-201
*NE
C: Computers 3 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
Choose an Introduction course in: Information Systems; Computer Literacy; Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Databases.
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes1
BU131
Comp Appl in Business
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
CAP-225
*CC
*PL
*PTE
D: [/size][/size]Finance 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
[size=undefined][size=undefined]For TESU course options, go to FIN-301 Principles of Finance
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
FIN-301
Principles of Finance
01/27/17
CR
3.00
FIN-301
*NE
E: Management 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to MAN-210 Principles of Management
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
MAN-301
Principles of Management
08/25/16
CR
3.00
MAN-301
*NE
F: Marketing 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to MAR-201 Introduction to Marketing
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
MAR-301
Introduction to Marketing
11/15/16
CR
3.00
MAR-301
*NE
G: Business/Society 3SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
Topics can include: International Management, Business in Society,International Marketing, and International Business.
For TESU course options, go to MAN-372 International Management
OR BUS-311 Business in Society
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes3
MAN-372
International Management
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
MAN-372
*PL
*PTE
H: Economics 6 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to ECO-111 Macroeconomics
AND ECO-112 Microeconomics

SH Earned: 6
Group 1[b] (Complete)[/b]
SH Earned: 6
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
ECO-112
Microeconomics
09/30/16
CR
3.00
ECO-112
*NE
2
ECO-111
Macroeconomics
09/29/16
CR
3.00
ECO-111
*NE
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Academic Evaluation Final
[size=undefined][size=undefined]Communications 3 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
For TESU course options, go to MAN-373 Managerial Communications
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes3
COM-300
Intro. to Business Commu
02/02/22
---
( 3.00)
COM-300
*PL
*PTE
J: Capstone 3 SH[b] (Complete)[/b]
*This Capstone course must be taken with Thomas Edison State University or via an approved Thomas Edison State University Academic Program Review.
For TESU course options, go to BUS-421 Business Administration Capstone
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes4
BUS-421
Business Administration Capsto
2017JUN
CR
3.00



3: General Mngt (18SH: 12SH must be upper level)[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
SH Earned: 18
GPA Achieved/Needed: 4.000 / 2.000
Complete both subrequirements:

A: GMS Required 9 SH[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete three courses (one course from three of the following four areas)[/url]
Accounting
Finance
Management
Marketing
**At least 12 semester hours within the entire Specialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 9
Group 1[b] (Pending completion of unfinished activity)[/b]
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes3
ACC-303
Cost Accounting
02/02/22
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( 3.00)
ACC-303
*PL
*PTE[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Group 3[b] (Complete)[/b]
4
MAN-376
Leadership Communication
2018OCT
A
3.00

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Group 4[b] (Complete)[/b]
2
MAR-441
Mrktng Digital & Social Media
12/13/16
CR
3.00
MAR-441
*NE
B: GMS Elective Area[b] (Complete)[/b]
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete 9 more Semester Hours (SH) from any assortment of the areas below.
Accounting
Finance
Management
[url=http://www2.tesu.edu/evaluation/index.php?area=Marketing]Marketing
**At least 12 semester hours within the entire Specialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 9
Group 1[b] (Complete)[/b]
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes4
LDR-305
Foundations of Leadership
2018OCT
A
3.00

[/size][/size]

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[size=undefined][size=undefined]
Group 2[b] (Complete)[/b]
SH Earned: 6
2
MAN-331
Human Resources Management
12/21/16
CR
3.00
MAN-331
*NE
2
MAN-311
Organizational Behavior
10/07/16
CR
3.00
MAN-311
*NE

4: Electives (6sh)[b] (Complete)[/b]

For TESU course options, go to Elective Courses (business related courses preferred)
SH Earned: 6
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
BUE-101
Personal Finance
11/12/16
CR
3.00
BUE-101
*NE
2
MAN-435
Project Management
05/13/15
CR
3.00
MAN-435
*NE

Other Courses:
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes2
MAN-301
Principles of Management
08/25/16
CR
3.00 
MAN-301
*RI *NE *DUP
2
CAP-295
Intro to Security Basics
09/18/16
CR
2.00 
CAP-295
*NE
2
CAP-385
Network Security
09/23/16
CR
2.00 
CAP-385
*NE
2
HRM-331
Human Resources Management
09/24/16
CR
1.00 
HRM-331
*RI *NE *DUP
1
GPS100
General Psychology
12/12/81

(3.00)
PSY-101
*PTE *CC *PL
1
GS111
College Success Skills
12/12/81

(3.00)
FEL-101
*PTE *CC *PL
3
MAN-373
Managerial Communications
12/12/81

(3.00)
MAN-373
*PTE *PL


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[bjcheung77]

OK I was right, you're good to go.  Saylor's course came in as UL, so the SL course can be LL.  Keep up the good work, you're already there.  And I noticed you did your Capstone JUN17, LOL... that must have been the TECEP as I did the TECEP then as well!  I didn't need to as I transferred 3 others from Penn Foster, but I wanted to lock in my second BA's degree catalog year and have enrollment extended.

[Toastmaster]

OK I was right, you're good to go.  Saylor's course came in as UL, so the SL course can be LL.  Keep up the good work, you're already there.  And I noticed you did your Capstone JUN17, LOL... that must have been the TECEP as I did the TECEP then as well!  I didn't need to as I transferred 3 others from Penn Foster, but I wanted to lock in my second BA's degree catalog year and have enrollment extended.

Thank you!!!!  Yep, it was the TECEP!  I did it literally on the LAST DAY it was available, at like the last hour lol.  I was so nervous.  Whew!

[LevelUP]

Study.com's Communications 120: Presentation Skills in the Workplace everyone here says is really fast and easy, no speeches.

My experience with Business 120: International Business from Study.com is that it is pretty easy almost like an Intro to Biz course.

Business Communications I took at SL and got it done in less than 20 hours.

The first thing I did was go through all the lessons/exams. Then I just did all the papers at once and handed them in for final review, no drafts. They aren't super picky on grading those papers as long as you follow the instructions.

The final there no open book but doesn't matter too much as it only counts for 30% of your grade. Questions were pretty basic and straightforward, unlike other courses.

[Toastmaster]

Study.com's Communications 120: Presentation Skills in the Workplace everyone here says is really fast and easy, no speeches.

My experience with Business 120: International Business from Study.com is that it is pretty easy almost like an Intro to Biz course.

Business Communications I took at SL and got it done in less than 20 hours.  

The first thing I did was go through all the lessons/exams.  Then I just did all the papers at once and handed them in for final review, no drafts.  They aren't super picky on grading those papers as long as you follow the instructions.  

The final there no open book but doesn't matter too much as it only counts for 30% of your grade.  Questions were pretty basic and straightforward, unlike other courses.

Cool!!!  Thank you for the breakdown, I appreciate it!

[Edriveless]

Can someone confirm if SDC's Communications 120: Presentation Skills in the Workplace satisfies the the BSBA Core "Communication" requirement. I do not need a UL for this.

Or I need this from SDC:
Business 113: Business Communication