BUS421 Capstone OL/GS - Which Professor?

[cerich67]

I'm curious if anyone has the schedule of assignments for GS of the BUS421 capstone.

I wonder how much of a difference it is from the OL one.

On the GS you are still using the online TESU moodle platform?

Yes to moodle

11 Written assignments
7 case studies
1 final project

I took it 3 years ago, but I only had 5 written assignments in addition to the 7 case studies (so 12 written assignments overall).

My written assignments were 208-287 words with 1 work cited, and I got between 85% and 100% on each one.  So I'm guessing 1000 words with 10 citations is putting way too much effort into something only worth 10% of your grade overall. But that's just me, and I'm lazy. 

Written are 15% of grade now, Case studies 35%, Midterm 25%, Proficiency assessment 5% , final project 20%

[dfrecore]

I'm curious if anyone has the schedule of assignments for GS of the BUS421 capstone.

I wonder how much of a difference it is from the OL one.

On the GS you are still using the online TESU moodle platform?

Yes to moodle

11 Written assignments
7 case studies
1 final project

I took it 3 years ago, but I only had 5 written assignments in addition to the 7 case studies (so 12 written assignments overall).

My written assignments were 208-287 words with 1 work cited, and I got between 85% and 100% on each one.  So I'm guessing 1000 words with 10 citations is putting way too much effort into something only worth 10% of your grade overall. But that's just me, and I'm lazy. 

Written are 15% of grade now, Case studies 35%, Midterm 25%, Proficiency assessment 5% , final project 20%

Ok, so change my wording.  I STILL think it's spending too much time & effort on a small portion of your grade.  I'd spend more time on studying for the final, doing case studies, and the final project.  I tend to prioritize my time on the things that give me the most bang for my buck.

[cerich67]

I'm curious if anyone has the schedule of assignments for GS of the BUS421 capstone.

I wonder how much of a difference it is from the OL one.

On the GS you are still using the online TESU moodle platform?

Yes to moodle

11 Written assignments
7 case studies
1 final project

I took it 3 years ago, but I only had 5 written assignments in addition to the 7 case studies (so 12 written assignments overall).

My written assignments were 208-287 words with 1 work cited, and I got between 85% and 100% on each one.  So I'm guessing 1000 words with 10 citations is putting way too much effort into something only worth 10% of your grade overall. But that's just me, and I'm lazy. 

Written are 15% of grade now, Case studies 35%, Midterm 25%, Proficiency assessment 5% , final project 20%

Ok, so change my wording.  I STILL think it's spending too much time & effort on a small portion of your grade.  I'd spend more time on studying for the final, doing case studies, and the final project.  I tend to prioritize my time on the things that give me the most bang for my buck.

Totally understand and you're correct. I may be putting too much into it. On the up side, it is actually enjoyable for me.

[dfrecore]

I took it 3 years ago, but I only had 5 written assignments in addition to the 7 case studies (so 12 written assignments overall).

My written assignments were 208-287 words with 1 work cited, and I got between 85% and 100% on each one.  So I'm guessing 1000 words with 10 citations is putting way too much effort into something only worth 10% of your grade overall. But that's just me, and I'm lazy. 

Written are 15% of grade now, Case studies 35%, Midterm 25%, Proficiency assessment 5% , final project 20%

Ok, so change my wording.  I STILL think it's spending too much time & effort on a small portion of your grade.  I'd spend more time on studying for the final, doing case studies, and the final project.  I tend to prioritize my time on the things that give me the most bang for my buck.

Totally understand and you're correct. I may be putting too much into it. On the up side, it is actually enjoyable for me.

Well now, if you enjoy it, then write away!

[Merlin]

His comments to me "Rather than concentrate on page counts, pay more attention to the depth and breadth of your assignment. Limiting yourself to "x" words or "y" pages will place an artificial limiter on your efforts that may impact the overall quality of your assignments. In other words, free free to deliver an assignment with a length that has allowed you to present your very best responses to the assignment. Less is not always more. Besides, I'm happy to read your submissions, regardless of length."

In other words, he is looking for the rubric, but also looking to see if you are examining the subject and trying to do more than just meet the rubric.

Yes, I agree he is more interested in the content and your analysis of the subject than just trying to meet the rubric.

Each of my papers was like 50% longer than required, but that is because I was purposely being exhaustive in my analysis in order to cover my topics from different perspectives. Mr. Lampman told me that he appreciated my attention to detail and was particularly pleased with my final paper. So if you show that you care about doing quality work, he will see and appreciate it.

I'm sure I probably would have still gotten good marks for meeting the minimum rubric requirements, I think putting in the extra effort allowed me to provide more convincing arguments while helping me to learn and synthesize the material better.

[adreeves9983]

I definitely want to do my best to get an A in this class. I want to pick Guided Study than Online. Does anyone recommend J. Lampan as being a good grader. I read somewhere he doesn't give A's. I am hard on myself too. I prefer GS but if I have to do OL to get an A, I will not mind choosing this. Thanks!


December 2020
Open
BUS-421-GS001 (83155) Business Administration Capsto
Guided Study Courses
J. Lampman


December 2020
Open
BUS-421-OL009 (83156) Business Administration Capsto
Online Course
A. Campo



December 2020
Open
BUS-421-OL010 (83157) Business Administration Capsto
Online Course
B. Courts

[dfrecore]

His comments to me "Rather than concentrate on page counts, pay more attention to the depth and breadth of your assignment. Limiting yourself to "x" words or "y" pages will place an artificial limiter on your efforts that may impact the overall quality of your assignments. In other words, free free to deliver an assignment with a length that has allowed you to present your very best responses to the assignment. Less is not always more. Besides, I'm happy to read your submissions, regardless of length."

In other words, he is looking for the rubric, but also looking to see if you are examining the subject and trying to do more than just meet the rubric.

Yes, I agree he is more interested in the content and your analysis of the subject than just trying to meet the rubric.

Each of my papers was like 50% longer than required, but that is because I was purposely being exhaustive in my analysis in order to cover my topics from different perspectives. Mr. Lampman told me that he appreciated my attention to detail and was particularly pleased with my final paper. So if you show that you care about doing quality work, he will see and appreciate it.

I'm sure I probably would have still gotten good marks for meeting the minimum rubric requirements, I think putting in the extra effort allowed me to provide more convincing arguments while helping me to learn and synthesize the material better.

I was the opposite with my case studies, which I very much enjoyed.  I am a very concise writer, and choose to use strong vocabulary rather than extra words to make my point.  I also spend a lot of time organizing my papers, so that the paragraphs do what they're supposed to do, without a lot of superfluous stuff in there. I got 100% on all of them, and all were shorter than required.

I feel like the word count or page length requirements are to give people an idea of what a paper should be - you can be shorter, or longer, but the key is to make your points well, give good evidence to back everything up, and please, be nice to your instructors and check your spelling and grammar.  They will appreciate it.

[LevelUP]

and please, be nice to your instructors and check your spelling and grammar.  They will appreciate it.

That's what Grammarly is for

[Merlin]

Yes, I agree he is more interested in the content and your analysis of the subject than just trying to meet the rubric.

Each of my papers was like 50% longer than required, but that is because I was purposely being exhaustive in my analysis in order to cover my topics from different perspectives. Mr. Lampman told me that he appreciated my attention to detail and was particularly pleased with my final paper. So if you show that you care about doing quality work, he will see and appreciate it.

I'm sure I probably would have still gotten good marks for meeting the minimum rubric requirements, I think putting in the extra effort allowed me to provide more convincing arguments while helping me to learn and synthesize the material better.

I was the opposite with my case studies, which I very much enjoyed.  I am a very concise writer, and choose to use strong vocabulary rather than extra words to make my point.  I also spend a lot of time organizing my papers, so that the paragraphs do what they're supposed to do, without a lot of superfluous stuff in there. I got 100% on all of them, and all were shorter than required.

FYI, I don't think your intention was to suggest that my papers were longer due to weak vocabulary, poor organization, or inability to be concise. But that is the way that just came across.

My papers tend to be longer because I like to provide multiple perspectives and a plethora of research-based data points, illustrations, and citations in support of my conclusions. I am concise where necessary, but I generally prefer to be thorough over being concise where I think there may be an opportunity for confusion or I don't feel that I have provided sufficient evidence to support my points. Then again, I enjoy research, so I tend to include a lot of citations in my papers in general.

In my case, the instructor called out that he appreciated the extra work I put into my papers, despite the additional length. Other instructors may prefer shorter papers though. My wife is a college instructor and I know she prefers shorter papers since she can usually move through them more quickly.

I feel like the word count or page length requirements are to give people an idea of what a paper should be - you can be shorter, or longer, but the key is to make your points well, give good evidence to back everything up, and please, be nice to your instructors and check your spelling and grammar.  They will appreciate it.

Agreed. Also, unless stated otherwise, be sure to follow proper APA (or MLA) guidelines for format and citation style. You can and will be marked down if your papers don't follow the standard required by your school, department, or instructor. You can't go wrong by following APA if not told to follow a different academic style. By the time you get to your capstone you should be well-versed in academic writing.

[dfrecore]

Yes, I agree he is more interested in the content and your analysis of the subject than just trying to meet the rubric.

Each of my papers was like 50% longer than required, but that is because I was purposely being exhaustive in my analysis in order to cover my topics from different perspectives. Mr. Lampman told me that he appreciated my attention to detail and was particularly pleased with my final paper. So if you show that you care about doing quality work, he will see and appreciate it.

I'm sure I probably would have still gotten good marks for meeting the minimum rubric requirements, I think putting in the extra effort allowed me to provide more convincing arguments while helping me to learn and synthesize the material better.

I was the opposite with my case studies, which I very much enjoyed.  I am a very concise writer, and choose to use strong vocabulary rather than extra words to make my point.  I also spend a lot of time organizing my papers, so that the paragraphs do what they're supposed to do, without a lot of superfluous stuff in there. I got 100% on all of them, and all were shorter than required.

FYI, I don't think your intention was to suggest that my papers were longer due to weak vocabulary, poor organization, or inability to be concise. But that is the way that just came across.

My papers tend to be longer because I like to provide multiple perspectives and a plethora of research-based data points, illustrations, and citations in support of my conclusions. I am concise where necessary, but I generally prefer to be thorough over being concise where I think there may be an opportunity for confusion or I don't feel that I have provided sufficient evidence to support my points. Then again, I enjoy research, so I tend to include a lot of citations in my papers in general.

In my case, the instructor called out that he appreciated the extra work I put into my papers, despite the additional length. Other instructors may prefer shorter papers though. My wife is a college instructor and I know she prefers shorter papers since she can usually move through them more quickly.

Sorry Merlin, I did not intend to say that you were any of those things (of course I wasn't, because it's obvious by your writing on your forum that you aren't any of those things).  I was trying to tell people (in a badly worded way) that some people can write great short papers, and some can write great long papers - and both are fine.  The real key to all of it is to use your strengths, and know that the guidelines are just that - guidelines, not hard and fast rules.  They give you an idea of what most people are doing.  Then use your judgement to decide if those work for you.

And Merlin, I'll bet when we sit down to write a paper, I will STRUGGLE to get my paper long enough, while you will struggle just as hard to try to shorten it!