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BS general studies with physics concentration: Worth less than a physics major?
#11
From this link
https://www.esc.edu/degree-planning-acad...t/#physics

It showd that 2/3 of the credits awarded are "advanced level" which is essentially upper level. This may be able to get me enough upper level credits, and it goes all the way up to 36 total credits if I do well enough.

(01-23-2020, 11:35 AM)bluebooger Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 11:09 AM)sciencemathematics1 Wrote: Thank you.

At the Student Degree Planning Guide (https://www.esc.edu/media/academic-affai...-Guide.pdf) it states on page 14

"In addition to the concentration titles provided in the AOS guidelines, you can create your own concentration title using a disciplinary or professional/vocational framework, as long as the title is clear about the learning represented in the degree."

Since I have been looking into Charter Oak state college, is there any similar such policy for Charter Oak? And is there another student degree planning guide available from Charter Oak? I was asking about a physics concentration available from Charter Oak on another thread I created at: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...te-College


here's the info about Empire and the GRE  
https://www.esc.edu/degree-planning-acad...t/#physics

but at the top of the page it says "Empire State College students may earn credit via the GRE Advanced tests only if they receive no other credit in the field(s) covered by the test(s)."
so that's interesting -- it seems that its all GRE or nothing

and yeah, you can create your own concentration title, but it still has to be approved 
but since they seem to already have a concentration in physics I'm sure they have certain courses in mind they'd like you to take 
but if you scored high on the GRE contact an adviser there and see if you can plan something out

charter oak has an general studies outline for biology, chemistry, and technology, but none for physics 
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php

but I think all you have to do is come up with your own and submit it for approval            

you could even do liberal studies 
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php
where you combine two or more disciplines 
the example they give Physics/Geology

again, just come up with a plan and submit for approval

charter oak also gives credit for the GRE 
https://www.charteroak.edu/pdf/charter-o...values.pdf 
go there and search for GRE 
you eventually see the 
Physics GRE 40th %tile 24 credits


About the SUNY Empire State College policy on GRE credit, I took that to mean that there is only one subject area that it will be awarded towards. I was not sure what this meant.

So, are you saying that I just need to submit an approval for the plan for what I want my concentration to be?
When I called them, they did not make that clear to me. I tried to ask them about something similar and I got an unclear answer. They did ask me though if I should get in contact with an admissions officer there. 
Also, is there anywhere on their website where they say something like this?


And I should try to take the physics GRE before I go to them, then contact the advisor there? 

For the liberal studies, I would think of doing a physics/math combination.
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#12
At this link, it says that in liberal arts studies and individualized studies, at least 18 of the concentration credits out of 36 must be higher level courses. If they only gave 9 upper level credits for the GRE, I would have to get 9 more UL credits from somewhere else for a concentration, since they do not offer it at Charter Oak. This would be a problem for submitting a concentration plan, so I should be able to have gotten them before I submit a plan.

https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre..._study.php

It also says that you must submit approval for a concentration plan of study within the subject areas listed, but it says nothing about submitting a request for a new concentration title to be submitted with a degree plan, so would it still mean that I am able to submit a plan for a physics concentration that they do not offer?
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(01-24-2020, 10:54 AM)sciencemathematics1 Wrote: At this link, it says that in liberal arts studies and individualized studies, at least 18 of the concentration credits out of 36 must be higher level courses. If they only gave 9 upper level credits for the GRE, I would have to get 9 more UL credits from somewhere else for a concentration, since they do not offer it at Charter Oak. This would be a problem for submitting a concentration plan, so I should be able to have gotten them before I submit a plan.

https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre..._study.php

It also says that you must submit approval for a concentration plan of study within the subject areas listed, but it says nothing about submitting a request for a new concentration title to be submitted with a degree plan, so would it still mean that I am able to submit a plan for a physics concentration that they do not offer?

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I am going to be e-mailing them this question instead of calling them, because I did not receive a clear enough answer on the two times that I called them.
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The main point of me creating this thread was to ask if a bachelors in general studies with a concentration in physics is worth less than a physics major. As in not only if I wanted to apply for physics grad school, but also if I wanted to seek employment with such a degree.
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#16
@sciencemathematics1 It depends on the employer. I don't think too much will bite about it as any job that requires only an undergraduate education in physics shouldn't make it an issue.

Any serious Physics job will require at least a masters, and if you're going to grad school that degree will be competitive.

If you're going to pursue a career in physics, you'll need a graduate degree.
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#17
The University of Missouri appears to offer a decent selection of upper level physics courses. https://physics.missouri.edu/news/online...ummer-2018

I would imagine you would ultimately have to do brick and motor classes for a full physics degree unless there is a college starting a full program online. You can look at things related to physics such as nuclear engineering or health physics. There are a few of those online to maybe give you enough classes to start a masters? Not sure....best of luck.
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#18
The Illinois Institute of Technology, a pretty reputable school, offers both Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Physics online. They offer several specializations at both degree levels and even offer several combined Bachelors/Masters degrees in physics and related areas.

Website: https://www.iit.edu/academics/programs?o...ation=2306
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#19
I may want to take some physics courses online, but only to transfer to the main degree program I am doing, which might be with SUNY Empire State College or with Charter Oak State College. I am also looking for online mathematics upper level courses I could do.
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#20
Apparently Arizona State has an online BA Physics @ https://asuonline.asu.edu/online-degree-...hysics-ba/

May fit the bill for people looking upper level physics courses perhaps.
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