Associates after Bachelors? 2nd Bachelors

[aslhou]

Greetings,

I am considering doing a second bachelors where only credits from an associates degree would transfer.
I have 5 courses from cc, 6 courses graduate/non-degree, and 4 courses undergraduate that would not show a diploma on the transcript.  Otherwise most of my courses are on a transcript with my bachelors degree mentioned.

The wiki for Pierpont says they won't award an Associates if you already have a bachelors.  Has anyone confirmed this with Nancy?
Any other affordable school option that would give an associates with my existing credits from the bachelors?

Thanks!

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I found that many community colleges offer a "reverse transfer," which is granting you an Associates degree after you left the institution based on credits received at a 4 year university.  I filled out this form for my previous CC, even though it says you won't be eligible if you already earned a bachelors.  Any other ideas?  thx!

[Darknigh7]

Correct, Board of Governors Associates of Applied Science are only available for students who have never completed a degree. No exceptions.

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[bjcheung77]

@aslhou, I've cleared your "quoted" post as you're quoting yourself and it just duplicated the info... I've skimmed your previous posts, it doesn't have the addendum or template info, it's unclear what you're trying to do at the moment. It seems like you're working towards a Bachelors or a second Bachelors, and want to snag a cheapie or freebie associates along the way? There are multiple institutions that allow this, it all depends on what you need or want, plus the overall situation you provide us through the addendum and template here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

[aslhou]

Your Location: Texas USA
Your Age: 40-50
What kind of degree do you want?: Second Bachelors - Penn LPS
Current Regional Accredited Credits:

Big10 school: Total Credits: 120

Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: 

CLEP Total Credits: # 5

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@aslhou, I've cleared your "quoted" post as you're quoting yourself and it just duplicated the info... I've skimmed your previous posts, it doesn't have the addendum or template info, it's unclear what you're trying to do at the moment.  It seems like you're working towards a Bachelors or a second Bachelors, and want to snag a cheapie or freebie associates along the way?  There are multiple institutions that allow this, it all depends on what you need or want, plus the overall situation you provide us through the addendum and template here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

Not quite.  I need a post-bachelors associates degree that contains 60 semester hours of regional credits (which mainly / hopefully come from my undergraduate institution). Ideally I would not want to take any additional classes and just use the 120+ regional undergraduate credits I already have for the associates.

If anyone has done something similar at Penn LPS please chime in.  They have a policy where you can only transfer in credits earned from an associates degree (not a bachelors).  They may still reject credits from the associates degree once they see the same credits on the bachelors 

To give more detail, I am trying to get legacy status for my child at the lowest possible cost, in the fastest time frame. I was also accepted into the Penn MCIT masters program, but that will cost around $35,000, taking up to 5 years, whereas the LPS bachelors will only cost around $28,500 and take 1-2 years, assuming I can transfer in 60 semester hours from "associates" plus the 4 courses I have taken in Penn LPS already.

[davewill]

It sounds like you're trying to put some of your credits on a transcript with only an associate's showing and only send that transcript to Penn LPS?

Unfortunately, that sort of thing pretty much never works. They are almost certain to insist on seeing credits on the original transcript, not on a transfer transcript, and they are also likely to insist on seeing all of your transcripts from any RA school you've ever attended before conferring a degree.

[aslhou]

It sounds like you're trying to put some of your credits on a transcript with only an associate's showing and only send that transcript to Penn LPS?

Unfortunately, that sort of thing pretty much never works. They are almost certain to insist on seeing credits on the original transcript, not on a transfer transcript, and they are also likely to insist on seeing all of your transcripts from any RA school you've ever attended before conferring a degree.

They don't have a rule against doing Penn LPS as a second bachelors, only a rule against transferring credit from the first bachelors to the second.  The associates they confirm will transfer, but again, with the risk that they say classes cannot be double counted in the second bachelors.  I will reach out to them and ask.

[davewill]

They don't have a rule against doing Penn LPS as a second bachelors, only a rule against transferring credit from the first bachelors to the second.  The associates they confirm will transfer, but again, with the risk that they say classes cannot be double counted in the second bachelors.  I will reach out to them and ask.

I guess the point of what I was trying to say is that you may as well send them all your transcripts now, then see what they are willing to apply to an associate's, or a bachelor's for that matter. There really isn't anything you can do to make them more acceptable. They will either be willing to apply them or they won't.

[bjcheung77]

Ah I see what's going on here now, interesting steps you're trying to take, that's some crafty 'extra work' to try and 'trick' Penn into thinking these are valid credits for transfer. I don't think it'll work at all, as Penn would look up the NSCH (National Student Clearing House) and find you already have a Bachelors and know which institution and credits you would have.

The only thing you can do right now is to find another institution such as UMPI or something that will allow you to complete the AALS, by taking on some extra credits in any minor you want. It'll just cost you $1500 and if you do this correctly, you get another Bachelors along the way, the BLS in some minor of your choice, you can even take 3-4 classes that go towards the MAOL and get that later!

[aslhou]

Ah I see what's going on here now, interesting steps you're trying to take, that's some crafty 'extra work' to try and 'trick' Penn into thinking these are valid credits for transfer.  I don't think it'll work at all, as Penn would look up the NSCH (National Student Clearing House) and find you already have a Bachelors and know which institution and credits you would have.  

The only thing you can do right now is to find another institution such as UMPI or something that will allow you to complete the AALS, by taking on some extra credits in any minor you want.  It'll just cost you $1500 and if you do this correctly, you get another Bachelors along the way, the BLS in some minor of your choice, you can even take 3-4 classes that go towards the MAOL and get that later!

This is the first I've heard about the NSCH, not sure if any of the institutions I attended use it.  I had to use Re Vera Services to validate my prior credentials, along with requesting transcripts from Parchment.

I like the UMPI idea, although ... I know Penn doesn't accept credit by exam, so they may only accept RA credits for transfer.  Do credits appearing on the UMPI transcript show A/B/C or is it just pass fail for those that weren't RA?  Any other concerns about this working?

Thanks!

[bjcheung77]

UMPI is all RA and graded, you can get 30 RA graded credits to bump up your GPA as well, you get the added associates, second bachelors, and 3 classes to go towards the MAOL for later. That's my triple tap right there, you tap into 3 degrees with just 10 classes...