Asking for a 3 credit waiver for Social Psychology at TESU?

[davewill]

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And you can't tell me that overlapping content is the criterion for duplication when they accept both Vietnam War courses from Study.com. If you do the UL one you have ONE quiz left in the LL one.
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Sure it can. That doesn't mean that they always apply it evenly. Also doesn't mean they won't change the policy on those two courses at some point.

[bjcheung77]

Yeah, it's weird how TESU and other schools evaluate courses. Most of the time they will go with the ACE or NCCRS recommendation but not always. I usually do the LL courses first and then do the UL course. I had 2/3 of the UL course completed. I should have done it the other way around if it left the LL with 1 more set of quizzes. It really doesn't matter for me as long as I get the LL/UL credits I wanted.

[mysonx3]

Ok, so did finally get an answer: BYU course is lower level. A bit of a bummer since BYU considers it upper level, but now I can proceed knowing how it would transfer in.

Sent an email asking about the following courses to fulfill the other half of the requirement if I do decide to take the BYU course:

Ohio U's Social Psychology of Justice
ed4Credit Social Psychology
Study.com Advanced Social Psychology
Coopersmith Social Psychology

We'll see what they come back with. I'm hoping that the OhioU course is UL and will count, but at this point I'm planning on having to get my UL credits somewhere besides Social Psych (unless I decide to pay for the ePack or the TESU course, which I'd very much rather not). I'm purposefully avoiding the UExcel as I really don't want a grade on a credit-by-exam course.

[Supermind]

This is also one of the issues I am trying to circumvent by changing to BA-LS. Going by whatever email exchanges I have had with TESU over the past 4 days, only TESU’s social psychology course exactly meets their requirements.
They are still checking, and will get back to me. So far, they seem ok with study.com’s Adv. Social Psychology, but it will only be LL credits. They seem very confused too.

[bjcheung77]

How much is the UEXCEL? It's prob the cheapest option. I haven't taken the course exam but I think UL exam in that course is $350-$450?

[mysonx3]

I wonder how common it is for TESU to count another school's upper level credits as lower level? I know it happens a lot at other schools but it seems like I rarely hear about it happening at TESU, but obviously it's happening with the BYU course. Hoping it doesn't happen with the Ohio U course because if I can't get 3 of my Social Psychology credits to count as UL I'm going to end up "wasting" more of the CC courses I'm taking than I'd like to.

[Supermind]

How much is the UEXCEL? It's prob the cheapest option. I haven't taken the course exam but I think UL exam in that course is $350-$450?

Social psychology Uexcel comes to about 170$. But TESU is unsure about that too. I am waiting to hear from them.

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I wonder how common it is for TESU to count another school's upper level credits as lower level? I know it happens a lot at other schools but it seems like I rarely hear about it happening at TESU, but obviously it's happening with the BYU course. Hoping it doesn't happen with the Ohio U course because if I can't get 3 of my Social Psychology credits to count as UL I'm going to end up "wasting" more of the CC courses I'm taking than I'd like to.

This is something I am unable to follow. When ACE has rated some course as UL, why does TESU change it to LL? And have you seen that there are some LL courses on study.com that TESU accepts as upper level, but only for free electives?

[mysonx3]

How much is the UEXCEL? It's prob the cheapest option. I haven't taken the course exam but I think UL exam in that course is $350-$450?

Social psychology Uexcel comes to about 170$. But TESU is unsure about that too. I am waiting to hear from them.

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I wonder how common it is for TESU to count another school's upper level credits as lower level? I know it happens a lot at other schools but it seems like I rarely hear about it happening at TESU, but obviously it's happening with the BYU course. Hoping it doesn't happen with the Ohio U course because if I can't get 3 of my Social Psychology credits to count as UL I'm going to end up "wasting" more of the CC courses I'm taking than I'd like to.

This is something I am unable to follow. When ACE has rated some course as UL, why does TESU change it to LL? And have you seen that there are some LL courses on study.com that TESU accepts as upper level, but only for free electives?

What course are you referring to that is ACE rated for UL but comes in as LL? I was under the impression that was mostly a thing of the past

[Supermind]

How much is the UEXCEL? It's prob the cheapest option. I haven't taken the course exam but I think UL exam in that course is $350-$450?

Social psychology Uexcel comes to about 170$. But TESU is unsure about that too. I am waiting to hear from them.

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I wonder how common it is for TESU to count another school's upper level credits as lower level? I know it happens a lot at other schools but it seems like I rarely hear about it happening at TESU, but obviously it's happening with the BYU course. Hoping it doesn't happen with the Ohio U course because if I can't get 3 of my Social Psychology credits to count as UL I'm going to end up "wasting" more of the CC courses I'm taking than I'd like to.

This is something I am unable to follow. When ACE has rated some course as UL, why does TESU change it to LL? And have you seen that there are some LL courses on study.com that TESU accepts as upper level, but only for free electives?

What course are you referring to that is ACE rated for UL but comes in as LL? I was under the impression that was mostly a thing of the past

Check out study.com’s Classroom Management- EDU 103. It transfers into TESU as EDU-319. But it can only be used as a free elective.

[Merlin]

I wonder how common it is for TESU to count another school's upper level credits as lower level? I know it happens a lot at other schools but it seems like I rarely hear about it happening at TESU, but obviously it's happening with the BYU course. Hoping it doesn't happen with the Ohio U course because if I can't get 3 of my Social Psychology credits to count as UL I'm going to end up "wasting" more of the CC courses I'm taking than I'd like to.

Hmm, there was a top-level administrative change that went into effect back in summer that made it so TESU had to revise the transfer acceptance policy to honor the UL vs LL nature of course credits. This is what caused TESU to revise how they accept ACE & NCCRS credits and made them stop accepting some LL courses as UL and vice versa. I thought the purpose of that process was to ensure that when people transferred in UL credits they were accepted as UL credits at TESU.

I wonder if they are just saying that the BYU course will come in as LL or if that is actually what the evaluators are saying. Its always hit or miss with advising since they tend to guess a lot and don't always understand the policies or how these things actually work. Which is why they're often wrong when advising students on alternative credit transfers.

My gut says if a course is UL at an RA college, it will transfer to TESU as UL despite what advising says. You really won't know until you try though. And if two courses come in as different course codes, they almost always do not overlap. Sometimes they will if they are off by 1 number or so, but I don't think this applies when comparing UL vs LL courses.