Article bashes Harvard Extension ALM Grad

[sanantone]

In my opinion, anyone who bashes HES are those who tried the program and flunked out, or knows that they don't have the IQ to do a degree there. I mean, if Harvard says it is a bona fide degree from Harvard University, then who is anybody else to dispute that?

Harvard started it by directing HES students to make it clear that they're HES students and giving the programs weird degree titles. So, it's really Harvard that doesn't want HES graduates to be mixed up with the rest of Harvard. 

They claim Christopher Rufo's Harvard ALM is "misleading".  At this point, I honestly feel sad for Extension students constantly having to prove they are not fake Harvard students.    

https://newrepublic.com/article/170647/c...misleading

Lesson learned. Description of  Degree gained from certain university has to be exact. 
.... degree from Harvard is not the same as a ....degree from Harvard extension school.

Similarly: ....degree from Purdue Global is not to be mentioned as... degree from Purdue.

HES is a part of Harvard University, but Purdue Global is a separate institution from the flagship Purdue campus. The Purdue system has multiple independent universities. Technically, Purdue Global is not fully a part of the Purdue system. It's a separate publicly-owned corporation.  

The weird thing is that Harvard extension students are the only extension/continuing education students who are "shot down" whenever their university affiliation is mentioned.  You don't hear anyone at NYU bashing NYU SPS students nor do you hear Upenn's LPS being thrown under the bus by other Penn students.  Heck, no one ever calls UCLA extension classes as fake UCLA courses.  It's just Harvard extension that has this stigma.  It's weird - almost like a strictly Harvard thing.

Does UCLA extension offer degrees? As far as I know, UPenn, NYU, Columbia, etc. haven't gone out of their way to brand their extension students as different. I also don't think they have earn-your-way admission.

[durain]

The weird thing is that Harvard extension students are the only extension/continuing education students who are "shot down" whenever their university affiliation is mentioned.  You don't hear anyone at NYU bashing NYU SPS students nor do you hear Upenn's LPS being thrown under the bus by other Penn students.  Heck, no one ever calls UCLA extension classes as fake UCLA courses.  It's just Harvard extension that has this stigma.  It's weird - almost like a strictly Harvard thing.

Perhap. As mentioned in here  :
https://blogs.harvard.edu/lamont/2013/09...20or%20ALM.

...This question gets to the heart of the identity issue. Some graduates don’t want to admit they attended the Harvard Extension School ..

[ifomonay]

... but in the end, it's a bona fide degree from Harvard University. That part doesn't change.

[smartdegree]

... but in the end, it's a bona fide degree from Harvard University. That part doesn't change.

Actually, that's the crux of the matter.  If you read many of these articles bashing Harvard Extension students, the theme is that they don't believe they are "bona fide" Harvard students.  In the real world, perception is sometimes just as important as the truth.

[ReyMysterioso]

The weird thing is that Harvard extension students are the only extension/continuing education students who are "shot down" whenever their university affiliation is mentioned.  You don't hear anyone at NYU bashing NYU SPS students nor do you hear Upenn's LPS being thrown under the bus by other Penn students.  Heck, no one ever calls UCLA extension classes as fake UCLA courses.  It's just Harvard extension that has this stigma.  It's weird - almost like a strictly Harvard thing.

There was a case of Ann Coulter bashing Keith Olbermann because he matriculated into the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, not the School of Arts and Sciences, which she claimed was the "real" Cornell and "only Ivy League school at Cornell."

I think there are some toxic attitudes about Purdue (w. Lafayette) vs. Purdue Northwest, Purdue Ft. Wayne and IUPUI. Once they bought out Kaplan perhaps all the regional campuses unified against the common enemy in Global, lol.  But while the snobbery of W. Lafayette is a thing that exists, you still never really see it come up much in media.

I don't know why Harvard gets more column inches about it. Maybe it's just a bigger, easier target. Maybe just the few people ever who tried to intentionally mislead folks into thinking they went to HC forever tainted all extension School students for eternity and the hatred will last for generations. Maybe it's like a sports team rivalry borne out of an isolated incident where fans don't even remember or know what started the hate - just that they're supposed to hate that team. 

Who knows?

[jsd]

Who knows?

I think as sanantone already pointed out, we do know this already -- It's happening by design. Harvard wanted to and went out of their way to distinguish between traditional students and extension students. They'll happily market to prospective students that it has all of the prestige of traditional Harvard, but then make sure that alumni aren't cashing in on that prestige. When the elitism comes from inside the house, it's no surprise that this is the reputation that is picked up on by outsiders.

[Pats20]

Who knows?

I think as sanantone already pointed out, we do know this already -- It's happening by design. Harvard wanted to and went out of their way to distinguish between traditional students and extension students. They'll happily market to prospective students that it has all of the prestige of traditional Harvard, but then make sure that alumni aren't cashing in on that prestige. When the elitism comes from inside the house, it's no surprise that this is the reputation that is picked up on by outsiders.

This ^^^^^

[ss20ts]

They claim Christopher Rufo's Harvard ALM is "misleading".  At this point, I honestly feel sad for Extension students constantly having to prove they are not fake Harvard students.    

https://newrepublic.com/article/170647/c...misleading

Lesson learned. Description of  Degree gained from certain university has to be exact. 
.... degree from Harvard is not the same as a ....degree from Harvard extension school.

Similarly: ....degree from Purdue Global is not to be mentioned as... degree from Purdue.

Purdue Global definitely informs students that they are not graduates of Purdue. They belong to the same alumni association though which is kind of funny. I imagine HES also explains that they're not graduates of the infamous Harvard University.

[ReyMysterioso]

"Purdue Global definitely informs students that they are not graduates of Purdue. They belong to the same alumni association though which is kind of funny. I imagine HES also explains that they're not graduates of the infamous Harvard University."

This is what they tell you:

[bennyoftheD]

I can understand the sentiment expressed toward HES - its a liberal arts degree across so many specialisations. 

Regardless I would not mind having a post grad degree from HES. For most people Harvard seems out of reach - HES makes Harvard attainable - cost and admissions

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