“Can I Make An Entire College Degree Out Of CLEP Credits?”

[jmeitrem]

This article that was written about a month ago. It's mostly good info but these couple of lines made me snicker

"Can I Make An Entire College Degree Out Of CLEP Credits?" - Jeannie Burlowski

tl;dr version:

"There are at least two colleges in the U.S. that claim you can make an entire college degree out of CLEP credits.

Do not try to make an entire college degree out of CLEP and other “credit-by-examination” credits. That’s a ridiculous idea. Do you want a doctor who never actually attended any basic science classes? The bulk of college credits should be earned in actual college classrooms."

[yb1]

What a stupid argument. A doctor is not going to be able to TEST out of a degree. That requires grad school, step board exams, residency requirements, clinical.

BUT if my doctor told me that he/she tested out of all their requirements, self studied and passed all the step exams, and did everything without ever stepping foot in a class room. I would think this person is a genius. I might not ask them to operate on me though.

Didn't that guy from Catch Me if you can pretend he was a medical doctor for many years as well as like 4 other highly regarded occupations. In fact I think he self studied for the bar exam and passed it without ever going to school.

Frankly, half of the time I go to the doctor I get referred to different doctors, my question doesn't get answered, and I just keep it moving.

Now I exercise, eat healthy, sleep right and go to the doctor once a year for my check up, and flu shots.


If you are going to make a point at least make it be reasonable, for example "do you want your tax guy to have tested out of all his classes? I don't know. if he does a good job I don't care"

Now if only I could figure out how to test out of a Nursing degree.

[cookderosa]

yawn.

I'm a fan of servant leadership, not a fan of get rich (credit) quick scammers.

[jmeitrem]

I agree, it's sad that people buy into these programs when all the information is free right here. I also smirked at the line "Save $10,000 on College" since many people here get their entire degree for half of that amount

[Life Long Learning]

What two does she claim?

"There are at least two colleges in the U.S. that claim you can make an entire college degree out of CLEP credits.

Do not try to make an entire college degree out of CLEP and other “credit-by-examination” credits. That’s a ridiculous idea. Do you want a doctor who never actually attended any basic science classes? The bulk of college credits should be earned in actual college classrooms."

[Bibby]

I'm sure there are some colleges where you can get an A.A. degree solely from CLEP credit, and maybe an A.S. degree in business or something. However, CLEP only awards lower-level credit, so you obviously can't get a bachelor's degree from taking a truckload of CLEP tests.

CLEP (and other forms of credit by exam) is an awesome way to save time and money on earning a degree. I wouldn't encourage anyone in her target age range (12-22) to get all of their credit by exam, though. You can certainly learn the fundamentals of most fields through diligent self-study, but a big part of the value of higher education comes from things other than lectures, textbooks, quizzes, and tests - career development opportunities, community service projects, student clubs and organizations, athletics, fine arts, and connecting with other bright, ambitious students and professors. You'll miss out on many of these things if you never set foot in a classroom. This is especially true for younger people who aren't already established in their careers.

I could say more, but this is probably an unpopular opinion already, and I'll leave it at that.

[cookderosa]

I'm sure there are some colleges where you can get an A.A. degree solely from CLEP credit, and maybe an A.S. degree in business or something.

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At the risk of doing someone else's homework... "some colleges" is not true. Of course, if you want to know more, you'll have to pay me $19.95.... Garbage.

EDIT to add: of course she's talking about 2 of the 3 big 3. Of course she's talking about TESU and EC. COSC has a cornerstone. See, I was just kidding about the $19.95. Anyone with 15 minutes could have answered that themselves. Also, I'm incredibly suspicious of people who keep their knowledge locked away behind some site where it can't be vetted. It's easy to say anything- but if you say it here, it will constantly be vetted, edited, revised, and perfected. Say it to people who know something: it's our own little peer-review here.

[dfrecore]

What a stupid argument. A doctor is not going to be able to TEST out of a degree. That requires grad school, step board exams, residency requirements, clinical.

BUT if my doctor told me that he/she tested out of all their requirements, self studied and passed all the step exams, and did everything without ever stepping foot in a class room. I would think this person is a genius. I might not ask them to operate on me though.

Ah, but if your doctor told you he/she tested out of their gen ed requirements via CLEP, would you care? I certainly wouldn't. Just because she tested out of College Algebra or Humanities or even Biology doesn't make her crazy - I would think she was smart enough to realize that some of these courses aren't required to be a better doctor. Testing out of Biology just make her able to take her higher level Bio courses more quickly.

Oh yeah, and I wouldn't think that if someone took AP courses in HS, that they would be worse off either. CLEP and AP are basically the same thing - they enable you to get through your lower level requirements more quickly so you can move on to your UL courses. You know, the ones that actually MATTER to your degree.

[Mamasaphire]

Recently I was reading an article about a specialist MD who is now practicing in our local area.

I'll admit, when I got to the end and read her bio, I was at first slightly taken aback at reading that her undergrad was in business (!!!!). But then I thought, why not? What do I care, especially when she obviously made it through medical school successfully, became board certified, and even specialized?

And really, some business background might be pretty helpful with running her practice, etc.

[dfrecore]

Recently I was reading an article about a specialist MD who is now practicing in our local area.

I'll admit, when I got to the end and read her bio, I was at first slightly taken aback at reading that her undergrad was in business (!!!!). But then I thought, why not? What do I care, especially when she obviously made it through medical school successfully, became board certified, and even specialized?

And really, some business background might be pretty helpful with running her practice, etc.

Doctors are notoriously bad at running the business end of their practices, and I've heard that they should have to take business courses in med school. I think it's smart to have at least a little business background when you want to try to run your own business.