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Any suggestion for online DBA
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(03-26-2024, 04:19 PM)Leedeedee Wrote: You can get a DBA from Guglielmo Marconi University (Rome, Italy) via Eaton Business School for $17k.  I don't believe they have the propio vs officiale system in Italy, so you should be good with this one.  I would double check though.  

https://ebsedu.org/doctorate/doctorate-o...istration/

They have something similar. But I believe it's only at the graduate level. That is, there is a difference between a "masters" and a "masters degree" in Italy. It's a bit confusing because there isn't much written about it in English. And autotranslation doesn't usually tell the difference. You have to reference the original Italian to see what kind of degree (or "degree") is being discussed. 

But doctoral level should be good, as far as I'm aware.
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(03-25-2024, 11:46 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Maybe check out some Doctoral degrees that are available with the MOOC's like Coursera, EdX, FutureLearn, Udacity, UpGrad...
I did look at all these platform. Edx doesn't offer DBA/PHD and Coursea doesn't even offer doctorate degree. Then base on what everyone said in the fourm, UpGrad isn't a good platform to study with them

(03-27-2024, 01:43 AM)rachel83az Wrote:
(03-26-2024, 04:19 PM)Leedeedee Wrote: You can get a DBA from Guglielmo Marconi University (Rome, Italy) via Eaton Business School for $17k.  I don't believe they have the propio vs officiale system in Italy, so you should be good with this one.  I would double check though.  

https://ebsedu.org/doctorate/doctorate-o...istration/

They have something similar. But I believe it's only at the graduate level. That is, there is a difference between a "masters" and a "masters degree" in Italy. It's a bit confusing because there isn't much written about it in English. And autotranslation doesn't usually tell the difference. You have to reference the original Italian to see what kind of degree (or "degree") is being discussed. 

But doctoral level should be good, as far as I'm aware.
Let me check if the degree is recognize by the Chinese government or not.

(03-27-2024, 12:17 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: And below is the resolution I propose, for individuals who have a 'different undergrad/graduate' level of studies, it may go differently.  Another example, someone who wants it the cheapest, easiest, fastest, combo of ROI/Value and they're 'international'.  With Pierpont BOG AAS now accepting international students, it can be done in 2-2.5 years from Associates to Doctorate - Pierpont BOG AAS, ENEB double masters evaluation as RA Bachelors & Grad Cert, OTHM Level 8 UK diploma, lastly ladder to US/UK DBA/DProf.

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Member Wrote:I'm also in the process of completing my MBA from ABC. I am taking little more time to complete it. With two master's degrees from ABC and XYZ, I believe I'm well-equipped at the graduate level. My intention to pursue a doctoral degree stems from a desire for personal achievement and to enhance my competitiveness in the job market. That's why I'm asking this question. 

If you received a favorable evaluation with NACES for your Ph.D. or doctoral foreign degree. Do you believe your foreign Ph.D. or DBA carries the same weight as Ph.D. programs from low-ranking US universities? If it doesn't hold the same weight, I'll consider completing my MBA and conducting further research. Alternatively, I may explore starting the OTHM Diploma Level 8, though I haven't made a final decision yet.

Awesome, now we know the basics, we can begin deducing what may be better options, it's similar to asking a question - X different doors in a Castle with treasure, which would you take to lead you outside?  People usually focus on one thing, getting outside.  I, on the other hand, like to deduce things a bit further as maybe all of them lead outside but with different adventures due to various routes, traps, and treasures abound...

From the brief info you provided, you should have a solid (solid enough at least) background in undergrad and graduate studies at the Masters level.  Going for a doctorate is great for personal and professional achievements that can be beneficial at all levels of furthering education, employment, and even emigration.  As I mentioned earlier, it really does depend, especially the needs, wants, and cost, ease, speed, etc...

Even with a favorable evaluation, I would not go for a doctoral degree elsewhere since all your studies so far are from the US, either butt-in-seat or exclusively online, I would only recommend the Level 8 UK diploma, laddering to a US or UK institution instead of any other international doctorate that required an evaluation to be RA equivalent.  Furthermore, FYI, US/UK are the top two nations for many things, including education.

Having a degree from the for-profits, or non-profit institutions you mentioned would be the options I would select from, these are RA. It doesn't matter if they're not top ranked, they serve the purpose of being a 'check the box doctorate' and is fully accredited.  Lastly, probably most important as well...You don't need to explain why you have an international doctorate each and every time people ask.  So, finish your Masters, do the Level 8 UK diploma, then apply to one of these you mentioned...
I was thinking about doing the ENEB MBA. But too scare of the Titulo Propio things. So I end up doing a low ranking MBA.
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doyouhowdo1 Wrote:
bjcheung77 Wrote:Maybe check out some Doctoral degrees that are available with the MOOC's like Coursera, EdX, FutureLearn, Udacity, UpGrad...

I did look at all these platform. Edx doesn't offer DBA/PHD and Coursea doesn't even offer doctorate degree. Then base on what everyone said in the fourm, UpGrad isn't a good platform to study with them

I was thinking about doing the ENEB MBA. But too scare of the Titulo Propio things. So I end up doing a low ranking MBA.

Great stuff, you have an MBA and a SQA Level 11 (UK Level 7 equivalent) diploma, which is exactly what ENEB will come in as, so skip the ENEB option and do the UK Level 8, then ladder that to a DBA/DProf from a US/UK institution of your choice.

I repeat the following: @doyouhowdo1, to answer your post #9 question "What if I only have a MBA and SQA level 11. Will they also allow me to do only the Doctoral Research phase. Are they RA too?"

These are not RA, but foreign equivalent to RA, having said that, you're at a Level 7 when it gets evaluated, thus, you can't use it for progression to this DBA. You need to complete a Level 8, CMI or OTHM are your best options.
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(03-27-2024, 01:43 AM)rachel83az Wrote: ...there is a difference between a "masters" and a "masters degree" in Italy. It's a bit confusing because there isn't much written about it in English. 


Ahh that makes sense, I guess the 60 ECTS qualifications are the Masters and the 120 ECTS qualifications are the Masters Degrees.
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(03-27-2024, 10:12 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote:
doyouhowdo1 Wrote:
bjcheung77 Wrote:Maybe check out some Doctoral degrees that are available with the MOOC's like Coursera, EdX, FutureLearn, Udacity, UpGrad...

I did look at all these platform. Edx doesn't offer DBA/PHD and Coursea doesn't even offer doctorate degree. Then base on what everyone said in the fourm, UpGrad isn't a good platform to study with them

I was thinking about doing the ENEB MBA. But too scare of the Titulo Propio things. So I end up doing a low ranking MBA.

Great stuff, you have an MBA and a SQA Level 11 (UK Level 7 equivalent) diploma, which is exactly what ENEB will come in as, so skip the ENEB option and do the UK Level 8, then ladder that to a DBA/DProf from a US/UK institution of your choice.

I repeat the following: @doyouhowdo1, to answer your post #9 question "What if I only have a MBA and SQA level 11. Will they also allow me to do only the Doctoral Research phase. Are they RA too?"

These are not RA, but foreign equivalent to RA, having said that, you're at a Level 7 when it gets evaluated, thus, you can't use it for progression to this DBA. You need to complete a Level 8, CMI or OTHM are your best options.

Can you detail what these Level 8 courses entail? Are they exams or written assessments? Which University accepts them and does it require additional coursework or do they allow these to transfer and then go directly to dissertation phase? Is it United States RA equivalent or is it NA? Is there a curriculum breakdown and tuition fee structure?

Thanks for the detail

For Example, I have an US RA MBA and additional 24 hrs of graduate coursework.. would it be more cost affordable/worthwhile/faster to pursue this or go the South College route?
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All Level 8's from CMI, OTHM, Qualifi are written assignments, they help you build your writing capacity and prepare you for even more writing especially at the doctoral level. I think it's a good idea to have Level 8 options to ladder into a doctorate of your choice, be it a DBA or DProf... The main thing I like about it is, preparation and a logical step towards a doctoral goal, I like the progression from stages to the next and final one...
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(04-20-2024, 09:26 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: All Level 8's from CMI, OTHM, Qualifi are written assignments, they help you build your writing capacity and prepare you for even more writing especially at the doctoral level.  I think it's a good idea to have Level 8 options to ladder into a doctorate of your choice, be it a DBA or DProf...  The main thing I like about it is, preparation and a logical step towards a doctoral goal, I like the progression from stages to the next and final one...

Up to now, the only school accept Level 8 for DBA topup is Westcliff University via UAE partner.

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(04-22-2024, 11:18 PM)armado Wrote:
(04-20-2024, 09:26 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: All Level 8's from CMI, OTHM, Qualifi are written assignments, they help you build your writing capacity and prepare you for even more writing especially at the doctoral level.  I think it's a good idea to have Level 8 options to ladder into a doctorate of your choice, be it a DBA or DProf...  The main thing I like about it is, preparation and a logical step towards a doctoral goal, I like the progression from stages to the next and final one...

Up to now, the only school accept Level 8 for DBA topup is Westcliff University via UAE partner.

Can you add some more name ?

Hmm, I think you asked me that already, I replied with a few examples... You may want to review post #3 from you and post #4 from me, or even read the entire thread here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Questions  

There might be more information on this thread as well: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Evaluation , if you're looking at UK for 'top-up' options, there are ones for the DProf.

Most DProf require a Masters and that's it, but I like to go above and beyond those requirements as the Level 8 gives you more practice for writing a thesis/dissertation.  Here's a DProf: DProf Professional Doctorate | The University of Sunderland
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(04-23-2024, 01:48 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote:
(04-22-2024, 11:18 PM)armado Wrote:
(04-20-2024, 09:26 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: All Level 8's from CMI, OTHM, Qualifi are written assignments, they help you build your writing capacity and prepare you for even more writing especially at the doctoral level.  I think it's a good idea to have Level 8 options to ladder into a doctorate of your choice, be it a DBA or DProf...  The main thing I like about it is, preparation and a logical step towards a doctoral goal, I like the progression from stages to the next and final one...

Up to now, the only school accept Level 8 for DBA topup is Westcliff University via UAE partner.

Can you add some more name ?

Hmm, I think you asked me that already, I replied with a few examples... You may want to review post #3 from you and post #4 from me, or even read the entire thread here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Questions  

There might be more information on this thread as well: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Evaluation , if you're looking at UK for 'top-up' options, there are ones for the DProf.

Most DProf require a Masters and that's it, but I like to go above and beyond those requirements as the Level 8 gives you more practice for writing a thesis/dissertation.  Here's a DProf: DProf Professional Doctorate | The University of Sunderland
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For me I won't recommend a level 8,I asked the official body (OTHM) about the exit path of the diploma. They cannot give a clear answer which university will allow dissertation only option. They only ask you to discuss with the university you want to enter.

For level 7 they could give a clear exit path which university would provide which top up degree,but level 8 there is no such list.

This level 8 diploma is very interesting. They are level 8 according to EQF and MQF or even HKQF (not tested yet),but I think you cannot call yourself as a doctorate.
So why not do the dba directly instead as the coursework stage takes normall one year,actually the same timespan as a level 8 diploma but it is more solid.
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