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American Govt & US History 1
#1
I was just wondering if anyone knows how much overlap there is between the USH1 and the American Govt test? Ive seen some posts saying they have some common material, but Ive also seen the the gov test is a bear. I need a history sequence and since I dont have any special interest or background in either USH or world civ, I was thinking about going for the USH if it would significantly cut down on study time for the govt exam. Thanks!
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#2
Well, I'm studying for Am. Gov. right now and I've already taken the US History I test. I'd have to say that there is definitely some overlap between the two. I think going with US History I first would be good. While studying for government I've noticed several things like political parties, slavery issues, women's suffrage, etc. that is a repeat of USH1. And then obviously the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. Here's a list that might help you!

CLEP and DSST Overlap List! - Free-Clep-Prep.com

Hope this helps some!
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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#3
OpenRoot,
Am. Govt. can't be used as a History course. I made that same mistake and took Am. Govt. when I didn't have too. I'm glad I did, but I was bummed that it didn't apply to my History credits.
Unless, of course, that has changed in the past twelve months.
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#4
I made the same mistake. Government is Poly Sci. However if you have already studied government it will help you in US History I. There is 1/3 overlap I think. I took both and liked the overlap. As you do more testing you will see more and more overlap. Good luck.
BSBA CIS from TESC, BA Natural Science/Math from TESC
MBA Applied Computer Science from NCU
Enrolled at NCU in the PhD Applied Computer Science
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#5
Thank you both for the help! The link is great!

I have to take a history sequence (either world civ 1&2 or ush 1&2) anyway, so I was thought if the USH test had a lot of overlap with American Govt Id go for the USH sequence and use the Govt credits as an elective. Not sure though - after reading the feedback on the USH2 and Govt exams Im pretty intimidated.

Thanks again for the help. Much appreciated!
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#6
Can't hurt to study American Government as part of your prep for US History I. American Government is one of the most often failed exams probably because people think they don't need to study. Thats just my guess. It is very important material. I think it should be a required course for all bachelors degrees in the US.
BSBA CIS from TESC, BA Natural Science/Math from TESC
MBA Applied Computer Science from NCU
Enrolled at NCU in the PhD Applied Computer Science
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#7
I would choose USH I & II over all other options.
Lyanne

DSST (27)
Personal Finance - 448 Astronomy - 61 Civil War and Reconstruction - 68 History of Vietnam War - 68 Substance Abuse - 59 World Religions - 473 Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union - 55 Environment and Humanity: Race to Save the Planet -61 Intro to Modern Middle East - 58
CLEP (48)
American Literature-73 American Government-62 U.S. History I - 64 U.S. History II -73 A&I Literature - 75 Western Civ I - 58 Western Civ II - 61 English Literature - 67 Humanities -76 Intro Sociology - 62 Social Sciences & History - 69
Other (43)
English Composition, Literature & Composition, Art Appreciation, General Psychology, Intro to Anthropology, Abnormal Psychology, Travel Agency Operations, Advanced Hospitality (7 credits), Intro Computer Software, Digital Photography, War and American Society, TESC Capstone
ALEKS (3)
Intermediate Algebra

**Not official, but BA History at Thomas Edison State College!!!!!!*
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#8
Underestimating an exam can cost you. If you study up on the two us history cleps you can pass them. What prior knowledge you have will affect how difficult it will be for you to study for these exams. USh2 caught me by surprise by it's difficulty; but my opinion is if you study the IC flashcards hard you should pass. Take USh1 first because it's easier. I've liked history for a long time so I already had the rough time line in my mind; if you don't have a basic understanding of roughly what happened roughly when I recommend just reading through a high-school textbook before digging into the flashcards (and I know ryoder would recommend the rea books).
If you decide to do the WestCiv cleps be prepared to do a lot of studying; they cover such a long time span that you need to cover a lot of territory to try to catch enough of the questions.
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#9
Western Civ I&II are very interesting. I don't remember either test being especially excruciating. The specific feedback is very helpful and offers some excellent suggestions for study materials.
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#10
Storyteller Wrote:Western Civ I&II are very interesting. I don't remember either test being especially excruciating. The specific feedback is very helpful and offers some excellent suggestions for study materials.

The westcivs are easy, but they cover a large area.
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