Posts: 1,491
Threads: 102
Likes Received: 94 in 69 posts
Likes Given: 5
Joined: May 2010
63 CLEP Sociology
75 CLEP U.S. History II
63 CLEP College Algebra
70 CLEP Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
68 DSST Technical Writing
72 CLEP U.S. History I
77 CLEP College Mathematics
470 DSST Statistics
53 CLEP College Composition
73 CLEP Biology
54 CLEP Chemistry
77 CLEP Information Systems and Computer Applications
![[-]](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/collapse.png)
•
Posts: 381
Threads: 44
Likes Received: 140 in 87 posts
Likes Given: 467
Joined: Feb 2017
Interesting
BABA, New England College, 2019
•
Posts: 8,272
Threads: 91
Likes Received: 3,422 in 2,455 posts
Likes Given: 4,068
Joined: May 2020
01-23-2021, 12:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2021, 12:27 PM by ss20ts.)
They've been an issue for years. She knew it and was probably in someone's pocket. Aren't all politicians in someone's pocket? Schools with these weird accreditations are best to stay away from in general. There's a reason why schools you're heard of and state university systems are so popular.
•
Posts: 561
Threads: 0
Likes Received: 160 in 119 posts
Likes Given: 155
Joined: Jun 2012
01-25-2021, 02:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2021, 03:04 AM by Johann.)
(01-23-2021, 12:27 PM)ss20ts Wrote: They've been an issue for years. She knew it and was probably in someone's pocket. Aren't all politicians in someone's pocket? Schools with these weird accreditations are best to stay away from in general. There's a reason why schools you're heard of and state university systems are so popular. (1) Yes - they have indeed been an issue for years - and were suspended from accrediting schools before DeVos resuscitated them - likely at her then-boss, Donald Trump's, suggestion - not for money. She doesn't need that.
(2) She was probably in someone's pocket, you say? Why would she ever do that? From Wiki:
"In 2016, the (DeVos) family was listed by Forbes as the 88th-richest in America, with an estimated net worth of $5.4 billion."
(3)"Aren't all politicians in someone's pocket?" Rhetorical question. My answer: No, not necessarily. Certainly not any that YOU voted for. 
(4)"Schools with these weird accreditations are best to stay away from in general." My take: Schools with ACICS accreditation- yes, I'd stay away. ACICS is problematic. But weird? It's still USDoE recognized as a National Accreditor through the Master's level. - till further notice, I guess... that makes it "non-weird," at least for now. Unless perhaps you think all NA (non-RA) accreditors are weird. (Some do - I don't.) Interestingly, ACICS dropped its application for CHEA recognition on Jan 17th 2020. I think they realized what the outcome would be. Face-saving.
•
Posts: 549
Threads: 16
Likes Received: 482 in 268 posts
Likes Given: 3
Joined: Apr 2020
(01-25-2021, 02:52 AM)Johann Wrote: (01-23-2021, 12:27 PM)ss20ts Wrote: They've been an issue for years. She knew it and was probably in someone's pocket. Aren't all politicians in someone's pocket? Schools with these weird accreditations are best to stay away from in general. There's a reason why schools you're heard of and state university systems are so popular.
(2) She was probably in someone's pocket, you say? Why would she ever do that? From Wiki:
"In 2016, the (DeVos) family was listed by Forbes as the 88th-richest in America, with an estimated net worth of $5.4 billion."
(3)"Aren't all politicians in someone's pocket?" Rhetorical question. My answer: No, not necessarily. Certainly not any that YOU voted for. If you want to get really pedantic about it, she wasn’t in the pocket of for-profit education. Rather, for-profit education IS HER POCKET. Sec DeVos and her family have (or at least had at the time of her confirmation) millions of their dollars invested in for-profit colleges and universities, including investments in schools/school holding companies with ACICS accreditation. This really isn’t a “fox guarding the hen house” situation. It’s more like the farmer putting the chickens in the fox’s den for safe keeping.
Reference:
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/...tsy-devos/
Master of Accountancy (taxation concentration), University of Texas Rio Grande Valley, in progress.
Master of Business Administration (financial planning specialization), University of Texas Rio Grande Valley, in progress.
BA, UMPI. Accounting major; Business Administration major/Management & Leadership concentration. Awarded Dec. 2021.
In-person/B&M: BA (history, archaeology)
In-person/B&M: MA (American history)
Sophia: 15 courses (42hrs)
Posts: 362
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 103 in 70 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
My take is that the US Dept of Education (The Swamp) simply dislikes private education, none of their cabal having been a product of the system. Accreditation is a process of following the rules that should provide a quality of education. It not a measure of the quality of education. Athletes can still graduate from Ivy League schools and remain functionally illiterate. ACICS is likely within acceptable quality limits. The Swamp is back in town. Enjoy it - good and hard.
•
Posts: 16,325
Threads: 148
Likes Received: 5,484 in 3,748 posts
Likes Given: 367
Joined: Apr 2013
(01-25-2021, 01:39 PM)Old Guy Wrote: My take is that the US Dept of Education (The Swamp) simply dislikes private education, none of their cabal having been a product of the system. Accreditation is a process of following the rules that should provide a quality of education. It not a measure of the quality of education. Athletes can still graduate from Ivy League schools and remain functionally illiterate. ACICS is likely within acceptable quality limits. The Swamp is back in town. Enjoy it - good and hard.
They dislike private education like Harvard or Stanford? None of those people went to private schools? I highly doubt that.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers DSST Computers, Pers Fin CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats Ed4Credit Acct 2 PF Fin Mgmt ALEKS Int & Coll Alg Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics Kaplan PLA
•
Posts: 362
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 103 in 70 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
(01-25-2021, 04:27 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (01-25-2021, 01:39 PM)Old Guy Wrote: My take is that the US Dept of Education (The Swamp) simply dislikes private education, none of their cabal having been a product of the system. Accreditation is a process of following the rules that should provide a quality of education. It not a measure of the quality of education. Athletes can still graduate from Ivy League schools and remain functionally illiterate. ACICS is likely within acceptable quality limits. The Swamp is back in town. Enjoy it - good and hard.
They dislike private education like Harvard or Stanford? None of those people went to private schools? I highly doubt that.
Shall I say private-for-profit universities? I suspect you knew what I was referring to.
•
Posts: 1,340
Threads: 388
Likes Received: 494 in 343 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Jan 2021
01-25-2021, 09:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2021, 09:34 PM by Alpha.)
(01-25-2021, 02:52 AM)Johann Wrote: ...(1) Yes - they have indeed been an issue for years - and were suspended from accrediting schools before DeVos resuscitated them - likely at her then-boss, Donald Trump's, suggestion - not for money. She doesn't need that... I certainly have no information on this specific subject but I will say that the logic employed here runs contrary to my life experience. What I mean, specifically, is that the idea that a rich person won't do something in order to make easy money is simply not true. My experience has been that rich people will frequently do all sorts of things, some of them immoral, some illegal, etc., just to increase their wealth. In fact, it seems to be the exact thing that they are most interested in doing. Clearly this does not apply to all rich people but just as clearly it very much applies to others.
Posts: 362
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 103 in 70 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
01-26-2021, 12:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2021, 01:05 PM by Old Guy.)
My experience with rich people and I used to work for a few is their scrupulous honesty. One time I made a comment to a real estate developer who was buying gas at a gas station he owned, "They make you pay?" He said he always made sure everything looked legal.
The trillion dollar charity industry is funded by rich people giving their money away. Are there dishonest rich people? Sure. Are there many? No.
•
|
