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ASU credit for $99 until 08-17-2020!
Thank you so much !! That information will be very helpful to continue on in  my Astronomy course!!
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(08-22-2020, 03:16 AM)rachel83az Wrote:
(08-21-2020, 07:09 PM)Pathfinder Wrote: I just signed up for ASU astronomy with lab which hopefully will fulfill COSC science with lab requirement.  It looked challenging yet doable until I saw the lab questions!!!   I'm not sure if I will be able to do that part!  I'm an older learner and Algebra is gone from my brain!!  Do they teach you how to do the math or you have to be able to do that on your own??

Has anyone done study.com Biology101 with the virtual lab?  That is my only other option.  SL lab is sent by mail and I'm in another country... not feasible

I would greatly appreciate anyone's take on which lab is easiest Biology101 from study.com or ASU astronomy lab?  Or your thoughts on either if you've taken one of these?    Is there a math component to Bio101L?  Does ASU astronomy get easier or worse?

Thank you!!!
Keep going! As I wrote in my review here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...UIdaho-etc the videos aren't necessarily enough to explain the formulae. However, you can do pretty poorly on the labs and still be able to get at least a C. Sign up for Wolfram Alpha and you can have many of the formulas explained to you. I might have been able to get 100% on at least the early labs if I had done this. Check the discussion forum before attempting the labs. The instructor puts MUCH better instructions there, especially after multiple students have issues with the questions. I moved doing the astronomy lessons from first thing on Tuesday to Friday or Saturday to take advantage of this. Remember that you get 3 tries with everything, except the midterm and the final. That really, really helps.

Rachel, are the outdoor activities 100% necesary? What happen if submit nothing in these homeworks??
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(08-22-2020, 10:13 AM)cecilgambe7 Wrote: Rachel, are the outdoor activities 100% necesary? What happen if submit nothing in these homeworks??

The outdoor activities are only worth 3% of your total grade and the final design project is worth only 5%. You can completely skip everything if you want. I did and still got a B overall but submitting the projects would not have given me an A because I got a low B. But if you are having a hard time with the labs then I highly suggest coming up with something for these projects. This means your mid-low A could become a B and your C could become a fail if you submit nothing.

Let's do some math. Let's say that you're abysmal at the labs and only get an average of 50% on them. But you manage to get a 95% average for your homework (easy - watch the video, take the notes), 90% on the 3 quizzes, and you do all of your content mastery (Cerego) every week (100%).

If we add up the weighted average of your homework (17%), labs (7%), quizzes (27%), and content mastery (5%), that's 56%. Add another 8% for your projects/activities and that's 64%. This means that you'd only need to get around 28% (about 12 out of 40 questions correct) on your final for a weighted percentage of 7% to be added to give you a 71% and a C in the class.

Without that extra 8% in there, you'd need to get 64% (or about 26 questions out of 40) correct in order to get that same 71% to pass the class. This is completely doable; I think there were only 3 or 4 lab questions on my final. But it does put more pressure on the final.

Basically, the worse you are at math, the more important those projects become.

Keep in mind that the activities and (IIRC) the design project are all self-graded. You can do pretty much anything you want (within reason) and, so long as you follow the rubric, you'll get 100%.
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The design and outdoor projects are easy. For the outdoor one, just go look at the Big Dipper, take a pic of the sky with your phone and turn in an explanation, "I went outside and observed the Big Dipper." Or go outside and look at the moon and say, "I observed the moon. It was at suchansuch phase. I learned in this class that the the curved shadow is what told early astronomers that it was spherical." Give yourself an A.
For my outdoor project, I went outside and found Jupiter. I gave myself an A.
For the design project, I took a public domain image of a starry sky and wrote a really bleak poem over it about how small and insignificant our brief existence is and how our fates are essentially predetermined by the laws of physics. I gave myself an A.
Now if there's some overachiever somewhere that wants to really go the extra mile and build a 3/5 size replica of the El Caracol Mayan observatory out of $10,000 worth of Legos in their backyard before they feel like they "earned" an A.... hey that's great. But I got the same A by writing a poem. My stepdaughter made a painting of Saturn.
Don't overthink it too much.
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Their earned admission is so amazing!
I hope they will offer COVID-19 $99 pricing again for the next semester. COVID-19 is here to stay... I doubt if it will go away any time soon.


I can't believe I've missed Health and Wellness and Western Civilization at $99 price... now they cost $400 per each Sad
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(08-22-2020, 10:38 AM)rachel83az Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 10:13 AM)cecilgambe7 Wrote: Rachel, are the outdoor activities 100% necesary? What happen if submit nothing in these homeworks??

The outdoor activities are only worth 3% of your total grade and the final design project is worth only 5%. You can completely skip everything if you want. I did and still got a B overall but submitting the projects would not have given me an A because I got a low B. But if you are having a hard time with the labs then I highly suggest coming up with something for these projects. This means your mid-low A could become a B and your C could become a fail if you submit nothing.

Let's do some math. Let's say that you're abysmal at the labs and only get an average of 50% on them. But you manage to get a 95% average for your homework (easy - watch the video, take the notes), 90% on the 3 quizzes, and you do all of your content mastery (Cerego) every week (100%).

If we add up the weighted average of your homework (17%), labs (7%), quizzes (27%), and content mastery (5%), that's 56%. Add another 8% for your projects/activities and that's 64%. This means that you'd only need to get around 28% (about 12 out of 40 questions correct) on your final for a weighted percentage of 7% to be added to give you a 71% and a C in the class.

Without that extra 8% in there, you'd need to get 64% (or about 26 questions out of 40) correct in order to get that same 71% to pass the class. This is completely doable; I think there were only 3 or 4 lab questions on my final. But it does put more pressure on the final.

Basically, the worse you are at math, the more important those projects become.

Keep in mind that the activities and (IIRC) the design project are all self-graded. You can do pretty much anything you want (within reason) and, so long as you follow the rubric, you'll get 100%.

Thank you for your feedback Rachel. I am actually good with math, so Lab is enjoyable thing for me Wink
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(08-22-2020, 01:34 PM)nomaduser Wrote: Their earned admission is so amazing!
I hope they will offer COVID-19 $99 pricing again for the next semester. COVID-19 is here to stay... I doubt if it will go away any time soon.


I can't believe I've missed Health and Wellness and Western Civilization at $99 price... now they cost $400 per each Sad

I hope that this becomes a yearly thing; some sort of discount for these classes. The actual cost of administering them is almost nothing. The videos are several years old and the teachers probably spend less than 10 hours a week checking the discussion board(s) and answering questions. $400 is still an okay price for RA credit, especially from a 4-year university, but I'm sure it could be cheaper and ASU would still make money.
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(08-22-2020, 02:14 PM)rachel83az Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 01:34 PM)nomaduser Wrote: Their earned admission is so amazing!
I hope they will offer COVID-19 $99 pricing again for the next semester. COVID-19 is here to stay... I doubt if it will go away any time soon.


I can't believe I've missed Health and Wellness and Western Civilization at $99 price... now they cost $400 per each Sad

I hope that this becomes a yearly thing; some sort of discount for these classes. The actual cost of administering them is almost nothing. The videos are several years old and the teachers probably spend less than 10 hours a week checking the discussion board(s) and answering questions. $400 is still an okay price for RA credit, especially from a 4-year university, but I'm sure it could be cheaper and ASU would still make money.
Not only that, the EA courses aren't really intended to make money directly, they're more of a recruiting tool to try and get more future students to enroll in a full degree program at ASU.
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If this article holds true, universities will need to significantly reduce expenses.  That should result in more opportunities like $99 for 3 RA credits.  

If you want to skip the covid conversation, scroll to the paragraph beginning with: 
Paul Friga, a professor of strategy... 

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(08-21-2020, 03:09 PM)rachel83az Wrote: Working my way through Chemistry. It absolutely feels like it has 5x as much stuff (at least in this first "week") as the other ASU courses. Unlike other courses that say 18 hours and it takes you 2 or 3, chemistry may well take you the full 18 hours. We'll see what happens with future weeks. Thankfully, I don't absolutely need this course but I've been interested in chemistry for a while so I'd really like to get through the material.

Week 2 is not quite as bad but there are still a lot of videos and things to work through. You need to work on this every single day, unlike other ASU courses. Week 1, BTW, dumps you into quantum mechanics. It feels a little bit backward to me. It feels like insisting that you must know how an internal combustion engine works before you are allowed to drive a car. I get that this is "for engineers" but it really feels closer to a 200 or 300 level course than an entry-level 100-level course.
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