ASNSM Computer Science

[Ideas]

I searched for threads about this, and there's not much info that makes sense. What I found was mostly for the Bachelor's. Does anyone know more regarding the 16 AoS credits?

How much of my BSBA-CIS plan would also meet the ASNSM-CS? (I want ASNSM-Biology but if CS is cheaper and easier, I am interested.)

Here are the 6 what I already planned to take for the BSBA-CIS:
- CSU-Global Info Systems Analysis & Design
- Straighterline Introduction to Programming in C++
- Saylor Software Engineering
- Saylor Computer Communications and Networks
- Saylor Intro to Comp Sci I or II (or Management Information Systems)
- Saylor Strategic Information Technology

It seems like at least 4 of those count as CS courses. Unless they are going to force me to do Data Structures and/or at least one advanced math? I have already done Calc I and would be willing to do Calc II. But Discrete Math is probably not cheap or easy, and I don't know if Data Structures is.

TESU's page says "Most courses in data processing are not considered to be in the liberal arts Computer Science category."

For the Bachelors in Computer Science, TESU needs these:
- Introduction to Computer Science (3)
- Data Structures (3)
- Calculus I (3)
- Calculus II (3)
- Discrete Math or Linear Algebra (Calculus-based) (3)
- 15 credits of electives:
Artificial Intelligence
Assembly Language
Comparative Programming Languages
Compiler Construction
Computer Architecture
Computer Arithmetic Algorithms
Computer Information Systems
Computer Organization
Computer Statistical Techniques
Computer Simulation
Operations Research
Problem Analysis and Solution
Programming Languages
Software Engineering
Switching Theory and Automata
UNIX

[SolarKat]

I don't have an answer to your question. However, I'll point out that another CS credential is the Undergrad Certificate - 18 credits total. Required: Comp Architecture, Data Structures. The C++ would fill the programming language requirement. Of the 3 remaining classes, Software Engineering may work, Systems Analysis may work, Comms/Networks may work, MIS may work. You might shoot an email to advising to ask about it. A quick credential, if you're wanting to build the resume quickly with CS stuff.

[dfrecore]

I don't have an answer to your question. However, I'll point out that another CS credential is the Undergrad Certificate - 18 credits total. Required: Comp Architecture, Data Structures. The C++ would fill the programming language requirement. Of the 3 remaining classes, Software Engineering may work, Systems Analysis may work, Comms/Networks may work, MIS may work. You might shoot an email to advising to ask about it. A quick credential, if you're wanting to build the resume quickly with CS stuff.

The problem with this is that TESU won't give you a cert without taking 50% of it at the school (unless you're already getting a degree, or so I've heard).

[dfrecore]

For the Bachelors in Computer Science, TESU needs these:

- 15 credits of electives:
Artificial Intelligence
Assembly Language
Comparative Programming Languages
Compiler Construction
Computer Architecture
Computer Arithmetic Algorithms
Computer Information Systems
Computer Organization
Computer Statistical Techniques
Computer Simulation
Operations Research
Problem Analysis and Solution
Programming Languages
Software Engineering
Switching Theory and Automata
UNIX

These are not the only choices - they are just the courses that TESU offers, and it's a guideline.

[SolarKat]

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The problem with this is that TESU won't give you a cert without taking 50% of it at the school (unless you're already getting a degree, or so I've heard).

I believe you're correct about this. Though if he's already getting the ASNSM, then 3-4 CS classes might fit into GenEd stuff. And I'm not aware of many architecture/structures classes, unless Saylor is working behind the scenes to get those accredited, so those 2 might wind up being at TESU anyway?

Looking at the specific TESU ASNSM (CS), they don't specify any particular math, so the Calc I should fit the Gen Ed Math. (OP, what do you have for Quant Reasoning?) And they don't have a specific Arch/Structures requirement. So the 2nd AS isn't very restrictive. (I don't know what their policy is on dual concentration or 2nd AS degrees, though - so are the rules there similar to a 2nd bachelors?) I would think that Intro Comp Sci I *and* II should work, C++ should work, Systems Analysis may work, Comms/Networking should work (my computer engineering son has to take it), Software Engineering should work.

**ETA: If you're interested in going further with the computer science stuff, like grad school, they will almost definitely want to see architecture and structures work prior to starting a grad program. This is true even for many analytics masters, because half the battle is storing/accessing the data in the first place...more CS than Analytics. The OP might look for a database class, too, if CIS/MIS is a career path.

**Further ETA: APU has discrete math for $270/credit, semester-based. LSU has linear algebra for $750ish all-in, self-paced. UND has both LA and discrete for $278/credit (no fees) self-paced.

[Ideas]

Looking at the specific TESU ASNSM (CS), they don't specify any particular math, so the Calc I should fit the Gen Ed Math. (OP, what do you have for Quant Reasoning?) And they don't have a specific Arch/Structures requirement. So the 2nd AS isn't very restrictive. (I don't know what their policy is on dual concentration or 2nd AS degrees, though - so are the rules there similar to a 2nd bachelors?) I would think that Intro Comp Sci I *and* II should work, C++ should work, Systems Analysis may work, Comms/Networking should work (my computer engineering son has to take it), Software Engineering should work.

Thanks! I guessed the same for C++, Intro Comp Sci I, Software Engineering... and at least one other is likely. I will check with TESU, but it's looking good! Worst case, hopefully I just need 1 extra Saylor or study.com.

I would be fine with just one AS (concurrent with the BSBA), although dual is interesting! I would love that too. I will inquire.

I don't have Quant Reasoning. Would it be needed? I have a bunch of other math: Statistics, Trig, Intermediate Alg, and Geometry (2cr).

I am not planning on CS/IT grad school plans.

These are not the only choices - they are just the courses that TESU offers, and it's a guideline.

I know Just posting in case it helps get answers. A lot of what's on their electives list matches very well with the 6 planned CIS exams.

[SolarKat]

Your other math should fill the Quant Reasoning without any problem! Good luck!

[sanantone]

The ASNSM in CS is definitely not cheaper or easier than biology. The only thing that can't be tested out of for biology is the bio 2 lab. That class is less than $400 at NMJC, and there are no expensive lab kits to buy.

The CS concentration requires 9 credits in theory. These are the courses that will meet the theory requirement:

Assembly Language Programming; Compiler Construction; Data Structures; Numeri cal Analysis; Linear Algebra (Calculus Based); Discrete Math; Discrete Structures; Switching Theory and Automation.

[Ideas]

The CS concentration requires 9 credits in theory.

For the ASNSM? Well, I guess that's why it was crossed off my list in the past. That is sad because those other courses (exams) are serious CS courses

That class is less than $400 at NMJC, and there are no expensive lab kits to buy.

NMJC doesn't run that course in the summer term, so I couldn't meet my goal of Dec graduation. Of course I would look for others, if I thought it was my best option, but I'm not sure I can swing $350+ for the one course.

[sanantone]

For some reason, TESU does not list the specific requirements for the ASNSM degrees on the website. You have to view them in OSS.