3 more Sophia Lab Sciences coming

[acamp]

Oh wow, nice!

If they only had Biology II w/ lab, it'd be super easy to get TESU's ASNSM Biology now.

Don't forget, it's not just that they have to offer Bio II w/Lab - TESU would also have to accept it.  SDC offers Chem I & II w/Lab, but TESU does not bring them in as CHE-121 & CHE-122, which is what's required for the BSTS.

Just curious what TESU brings those 2 Chem classes in as?


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[bjcheung77]

Many institutions will look at the ACE/NCCRS providers equivalency differently. it really depends.
Study.com has a transfer equivalency guide for their partners, they're pretty updated (regularly).
Here's the link for TESU: https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...urse-guide

Chemistry 101: General Chemistry = CHE-104 Introductory Chemistry - 3 lower
Chemistry 111L: Chemistry I with Lab = CHE-101 General Chemistry 1 With Lab - 3 lower
Chemistry 112L: Chemistry II with Lab - CHE-101 General Chemistry - 3 lower (duplicate without lab of Chem I)

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Update: Wait, there's an error on that link, it's 4 lower-level credits for the one with the lab, not 3...

[rachel83az]

Coming in the next month or so 

Microbiology
Anatomy and Physiology I
Anatomy and Physiology II

All lab with labster

I've just realized that this will make a Biology AOE at Pierpont possible for those who are interested. 4 Biology courses + labs for all = 15 credits, which is what's required for an AoE. The existing Introduction to Nutrition may or may not count as a Biology course at Pierpont because their Nutrition class is listed under Nursing.

[MNomadic]

Anatomy & Physiology 1 lab is listed on the ACE site now:

https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...65f38bf0e1

[dfrecore]

Yes, if you graduate with any degree and then come back for any other degree without taking at least 16 TESU credits, you must pay the residency waiver again. You can solve this by graduating with as many degrees as possible at one time, though it's not for everyone.

Correction: if you graduate with an AA/AS, and then come back to graduate with a BA/BS within a year, you do not have to pay the residency waiver again.

[bjcheung77]

If the student graduates with an Associates, in the near future wants to pursue a first Bachelors, that residency fee would be paid for (no time limit).  If the student finishes an Associates, Bachelors and wants to come back for a second Bachelors, they would need to pay a second residency fee - this is one of the reasons for those who want both Bachelors to complete them at the same time.

How I read this residency fee is, if you pay the fee and don't graduate within 15 months (for Associates, Bachelors, or both at the same time), the fee needs to be paid again. Here's the link for their residency fee and a copy/paste of their info.  Link: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees

If a student pays either residency waiver fee or does not graduate within 15 months, they will be required to pay additional credit hour residency waiver fees.

Students who successfully graduate from their first associate degree at TESU and pay the waiver will have been deemed to meet the University’s Credit Hour Residency requirement for both the completed associate degree and their first bachelor’s degree should they pursue one at TESU.

[TopHatWombat]

If the student graduates with an Associates, in the near future wants to pursue a first Bachelors, that residency fee would be paid for (no time limit).  If the student finishes an Associates, Bachelors and wants to come back for a second Bachelors, they would need to pay a second residency fee - this is one of the reasons for those who want both Bachelors to complete them at the same time.

How I read this residency fee is, if you pay the fee and don't graduate within 15 months (for Associates, Bachelors, or both at the same time), the fee needs to be paid again. Here's the link for their residency fee and a copy/paste of their info.  Link: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees

If a student pays either residency waiver fee or does not graduate within 15 months, they will be required to pay additional credit hour residency waiver fees.

Students who successfully graduate from their first associate degree at TESU and pay the waiver will have been deemed to meet the University’s Credit Hour Residency requirement for both the completed associate degree and their first bachelor’s degree should they pursue one at TESU.

I'm only one data point, but figured I'd share this recent experience.

I'm currently enrolled for a second Bachelors at TESU. First one was granted nearly 20 years ago. Since I'm doing the BS CIS, I requested to also tack on the "freebie" Associates in CS. It was explained to me that this request was denied because I already have the prior BSAST, and they don't like to grant a lower degree after already having conferred a higher degree.

It's immaterial to me personally, but just thought I'd mention this in the context of your comment that I bolded in blue above.

[bjcheung77]

@TopHatWombat, Interesting, I don't know who you corresponded with, but they may have provided you a different route instead of going for an associates, to focus on your future goal of say a Masters or to continue with your current Bachelors and leaving out that associates.  I, on the other hand would recommend asking another academic advisor, ask to have a second program added to your program list and that's it... leave it at that for now.

As reference, carrythenothing completed a second Bachelors, added an Associates and two certificates in June 2022
Another data point, jsd, completed a third Bachelors, added an Associates and also two certificates last month... 

If your data point is in between these two dates, you should take the extra Associates as it's FREE!  One word of advice, have a phrase or sentence such as, "I am really interested in Computer Science and need this Associates to get 18 credits within that subject matter, this is used for teaching and it's a requirement.

[dfrecore]

@TopHatWombat, Interesting, I don't know who you corresponded with, but they may have provided you a different route instead of going for an associates, to focus on your future goal of say a Masters or to continue with your current Bachelors and leaving out that associates.  I, on the other hand would recommend asking another academic advisor, ask to have a second program added to your program list and that's it... leave it at that for now.

As reference, carrythenothing completed a second Bachelors, added an Associates and two certificates in June 2022
Another data point, jsd, completed a third Bachelors, added an Associates and also two certificates last month... 

If your data point is in between these two dates, you should take the extra Associates as it's FREE!  One word of advice, have a phrase or sentence such as, "I am really interested in Computer Science and need this Associates to get 18 credits within that subject matter, this is used for teaching and it's a requirement.

I'm going to guess that it's related to the BSAST too closely, so they won't grant it.  I have a BSBA/HR from TESU, and I could not go back to TESU and get a BACS or BA in History (for instance) and add an ASBA - they just wouldn't allow it.  Nor will they allow me to get a BSBA in some other AoS.  I could get a certificate in something else, but not another BSBA.

[MNomadic]

Microbiology lab and course on ACE:

https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...65f38bf0e1

https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...65f38bf0e1