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Optimal/GradReports has produced its 2021 Best Online Colleges & Degrees rankings based on ROI. It looks like a few of our favorites made the list. There is an article on Forbes discussing the list as well.
For Bachelor's degrees:
- University of Virginia
- Northeastern University
- Excelsior College
- Capella University
- SUNY Empire State College
- University of Alaska, Anchorage
- Roger Williams University
- Thomas Edison State University
- Rider University
- Colorado State University Global
- Drexel University
- University of Maryland Global Campus
- Concordia University, St. Paul
- St Joseph’s University
- Brandman University
- Bellevue University
- Miami University
- Western Governors University
- American Public University System
- Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Worldwide
- University of Northwestern - St. Paul
- Trident at AIU
- The University of Texas of the Permian Basin
- University of Bridgeport
- National University
It doesn't look like COSC made the top 25, so not all the Big 3 are on there, but WGU did make the list. Capella, Brandman, and CSU Global also made the list, but I was somewhat surprised that NAU didn't make it.
They released a similar list for Master's degrees, but none of the competency-based colleges we usually suggest made the general list. Georgia Tech is mentioned, but not for the OMS degrees. Purdue is also listed, but not Purdue Global. If you dig down into the degree-specific listings, the more familiar schools do show up there.
In any case, I figured others may find this list useful or at least interesting.
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Cool, APUS made the list and so did U of Texas PB as well... here's the link for the Masters: https://www.onlineu.com/degrees/masters
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10-25-2020, 09:53 PM
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In my opinion, Northeastern University is the best. I was once accepted to their Boston campus. It's crazy that I rejected that offer. I always regret that decision. Back then, they used to rank 90th in the US. But now they rank among top 50th in US. I believe they can reach to ivy-league level in the next 15 years. However, their tuition fee is too expensive.
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So sad that Snhu is not in this list.
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(10-25-2020, 09:53 PM)nomaduser Wrote: In my opinion, Northeastern University is the best. I was once accepted to their Boston campus. It's crazy that I rejected that offer. I always regret that decision. Back then, they used to rank 90th in the US. But now they rank among top 50th in US. I believe they can reach to ivy-league level in the next 15 years. However, their tuition fee is too expensive.
They can never be Ivy League. The Ivy League has been set in stone for eons. That won't change. There have been movements to add to the Ivy League and they'e been rejected. They're not going ot let anyone else in easily. Ivy League encompasses so many aspects, but it was originally founded on sports.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
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10-26-2020, 02:46 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2020, 02:57 PM by Maniac Craniac.)
I wanted to go to Northeastern, too. Life circumstances at the time made that impossible. I'm glad that TESU and Excelsior are getting some well deserved recognition. I'd be years behind my educational goals without them.
University of Bridgeport on the other hand... wow. Last school in the entire universe I ever expected to see on the list. I should have known better, however. Their student population has a much higher than average percentage of Asian immigrants, most of them pursuing STEM careers.
In case anyone asks- the Asian immigrant thing matters due, not to racial factors, but to how strenuous and selective each step of the way is to eventually make it in to the position to go to school here.
EDIT: On second thought, I'm not so sure how that translates to online learning. I spoke too quickly without fully thinking that one through.
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Maybe this is the beginning of rebuilding Capella's reputation.
I'm not sure how U of V is #1. Their website is a mess. It's so difficult finding their online degrees. And they don't offer anything spectacular for undergrad degrees. Just a basic liberal arts degree and the professional studies in health management degree. I expected more from them considering what the school is. Weird to see NU on the list but not NAU. I read on here last week that NU had 6 graduates last year so it really makes me wonder about this list. Your location will also have a great deal to do with ROI.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid320043
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Yeah, I find this list a bit suspect as well. I was just happy to see some recognition for Excelsior, TESU, and WGU. But all of those would be much higher (like in the top 5) if they took ACE credits and other non-traditional options into account.
IMO, they are missing a lot of great ROI schools, primarily because they are ignoring many of the competency-based programs that can be far more cost-effective and offer a much larger ROI than any traditional college if you plan it right.
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(10-26-2020, 04:28 PM)Merlin Wrote: Yeah, I find this list a bit suspect as well. I was just happy to see some recognition for Excelsior, TESU, and WGU. But all of those would be much higher (like in the top 5) if they took ACE credits and other non-traditional options into account.
IMO, they are missing a lot of great ROI schools, primarily because they are ignoring many of the competency-based programs that can be far more cost-effective and offer a much larger ROI than any traditional college if you plan it right.
I am happy to see EC, TESU, and WGU on here. I am surprised that Walden wasn't on the list and schools no one has ever heard of and only have a handful of degrees are on instead. I heard of Walden years ago.....long before I knew of this forum.
I did notice one big name in the online degree world that is missing. That's U of Phoenix. I know they have a bad rap, but they do offer a number of degrees. Grand Canyon University is also missing as is Liberty. It's an interesting mix on this list.
I wonder how exactly they calculated the ROI. It doesn't say they included location. I'm not sure how they could account for how many people earn a degree for a promotion at work which we see on here quite often. It would be interesting to see what degrees people earned, what their job was when they started school, and what their job was within a year of completing their degree. Did they stay with the same company? Have they been promoted? Has their salary increased? So many questions! LOL I also wonder about the name of the school and that factor on the job search. University of Virginia is going to go a great deal further almost anywhere than a degree from Bob's University. Man, I wish there was a Bob's University. I would find that entertaining especially since I'm reading about TPS reports today......no joke.
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(10-26-2020, 04:06 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Maybe this is the beginning of rebuilding Capella's reputation.
I'm not sure how U of V is #1. Their website is a mess. It's so difficult finding their online degrees. And they don't offer anything spectacular for undergrad degrees. Just a basic liberal arts degree and the professional studies in health management degree. I expected more from them considering what the school is. Weird to see NU on the list but not NAU. I read on here last week that NU had 6 graduates last year so it really makes me wonder about this list. Your location will also have a great deal to do with ROI.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid320043
Capella owns Sophia and takes their credits along with CLEP, DSST up to I think 90 credits.
They are more expensive than say WGU but if you can graduate in less than a year and get the Pell Grant, then it's not a bad deal.
I saw some bad reviews from the people going for their doctoral degrees so maybe there are some issues with those types of degrees.
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