COSC requiremnt for lab course and new Sophia Labs

[Kab]

As far as I am aware is required to have a science course at COSC with a lab.

My question is then: Does the new courses of Sophia Microbiology + micro lab, Human Bio+bio lab or chemistry+chem lab fulfill this requirement?

[rachel83az]

None of the labs are known to work: https://charteroak.sophia.org/

The more difficult/expensive part of COSC is getting the UL credit necessary. There are only 4 SDC courses that COSC counts as being UL: https://study.com/college/school/charter...llege.html They don't take Coopersmith either, last I checked.

Excelsior, UMPI, and even TESU would be cheaper/easier than COSC at this point for a student who doesn't already have the UL credits from an RA school.

[WALLACEMC11]

I finished my biology course with Sophia and met the lab requirement using StraighterLine. It's smart to contact your advisor for confirmation. As Rachel mentioned, acquiring ULs (upper-level courses) can be challenging at COSC. There is now a minimum grade requirement for SDC courses and you must complete most of your ULs before enrolling in the capstone course.

[Kab]

Thanks @rachel83az and @WALLACEM11 for the info. I had hope that for some reason they had widen their transfer politic and accepted some of the new Sophia credits. You know:"Hope is the last thing to get lost"...

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I just found that Gateway Education also has some courses that they say are accepted by COSC and also have labs. But I could not find them in the COSC agreement. So... I do not really know.
for curiosity here is the page: https://store.gatewayeducation.com/courses-2/
I hope it can help anyone that want to go to COSC.

[ss20ts]

I finished my biology course with Sophia and met the lab requirement using StraighterLine. It's smart to contact your advisor for confirmation. As Rachel mentioned, acquiring ULs (upper-level courses) can be challenging at COSC. There is now a minimum grade requirement for SDC courses and you must complete most of your ULs before enrolling in the capstone course.

Just for reference for others...when did you transfer this into COSC? Interesting that they accepted a science course from Sophia and the lab from StraighterLine. Seems like many schools require the lab to be completed with the course so it's pretty cool that COSC accepted them split up.

[studyingfortests]

Seems like many schools require the lab to be completed with the course so it's pretty cool that COSC accepted them split up.

I remember, before I figured out that COSC had way too many ridiculous policies, talking to their advisor and having him tell me that they had a single credit standalone lab course I could do to meet their requirement.

There is a glimmer of hope that COSC might eventually get its head out of its ass. About 4 months ago, I got invited to a focus group with other COSC applicants that ultimately went somewhere else, and the purpose of the focus group was to ask us what made us choose a different school. About 4 out of 6 of us on that zoom group all said, in so many words, their ridiculous restrictions on transfer credit, refusal to take most alt credit, the one woman in admissions who was completely non responsive ( several of us got stuck with her), and similar factors. Apparently COSC is trying to figure out why no one wants to go there.

[Jonathan Whatley]

Two more things to remember about Charter Oak's reforms:

COSC would immediately become much more appealing again for alt-credit users if an existing or future low-cost alt-credit provider simply got a sufficient number of degree plan applicable, upper level courses approved by COSC.

COSC would immediately become much more appealing again for alt-credit users if an RA school simply released a sufficient number of degree plan applicable, upper level courses that it offered with RA credit but alt-credit-like low pricing, and there are direct precedents like ASU Universal Learner and the late lamented ONU Your Way.

[Kab]

@Studyingfortest thanks for your information about COSC. Give me hope they will change even when it is not so difficult to figure what goes wrong... You describe it pretty well in your last post (and many other people in innumerable prior posts).
I guess they do not read the post in here or anything similar or simply they developed an allergy to change and adaptation. I really liked the school and was one of the first ones I found when still the logo was in green. I'm looking into it again for my daughter but appears that I have to keep the hopes down.
I decided to jump in too late and now is not navigable anymore until they apply many changes... which you summarized very well before.

[bjcheung77]

Here are their provider agreements: https://www.charteroak.edu/cpl/credit-for-courses.php
An example is, if someone wants to get RA credit (24 of them), they can do the Lower Level TECEPS for the price
And then complete the max of these lower level and upper level for a BGS with a concentration or minor
Note: There aren't enough upper level from these providers alone, you can probably decide to TECEP UL instead

[dfrecore]

I finished my biology course with Sophia and met the lab requirement using StraighterLine. It's smart to contact your advisor for confirmation. As Rachel mentioned, acquiring ULs (upper-level courses) can be challenging at COSC. There is now a minimum grade requirement for SDC courses and you must complete most of your ULs before enrolling in the capstone course.

Just for reference for others...when did you transfer this into COSC? Interesting that they accepted a science course from Sophia and the lab from StraighterLine. Seems like many schools require the lab to be completed with the course so it's pretty cool that COSC accepted them split up.

UMPI is the only school that we discuss on here that has that requirement.  TESU will allow a lab science to be done separately from the course (like on a BS degree where they require Chem I & II + labs or Physics I & II + labs, they can all be from anywhere as long as they fit the requirements).  Excelsior doesn't have a lab science requirement.  COSC has always allowed a lab science to be from somewhere other than where the course was taken.  WGU doesn't care on their lab requirement.