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(06-16-2022, 02:36 PM)Dumber Wrote: Call me cynical! I find it intriguing that we have this misleading headline from a senior moderator” Foreign Academic Evaluator Says ENEB MBA = USA RA Accredited MBA” ENEB should be replaced with Ui1 because there nowhere in the unofficial valuation is ENEB mentioned only Ui1. So we dismissed a known entity as WES and then esteem an unknown entity Validential. I will definitely go with Validential because it seems to have a lower standard but that is not the point.
In your case, it's good to have both because you can show that one, ENEB, was evaluated by itself from WES as a non-accredited Masters but another evaluator "Validential" gave you the RA Masters evaluation based on the Ui1 Master Propio diploma. An entity that requires WES could look at both evaluations and see that you completed Masters coursework that granted degrees through two legitimate schools.
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While an argument for evaluation goes on. There are many different accreditors. You all are arguing semantics. ENEB is authorized by a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY to grant degrees with Isabel. This is what should matter.
Evaluation equivalents are typically used for further schooling. You should want options.
I took and finished the MBA from ENEB, I can say it was a good amount of work for me, for my research as I took it seriously. My finals were about the same size as it was for UMPI. It's basically a competency based master's degree. If you all have a problem with them, then you should have a problem with this entire forum as almost every program is similar.
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(06-16-2022, 10:50 PM)ashkir Wrote: While an argument for evaluation goes on. There are many different accreditors. You all are arguing semantics. ENEB is authorized by a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY to grant degrees with Isabel. This is what should matter.
Evaluation equivalents are typically used for further schooling. You should want options.
I took and finished the MBA from ENEB, I can say it was a good amount of work for me, for my research as I took it seriously. My finals were about the same size as it was for UMPI. It's basically a competency based master's degree. If you all have a problem with them, then you should have a problem with this entire forum as almost every program is similar.
There is something very unseemly in your post post, marginalized and racialized people can spot it from a mile away. However, There are many useless authorized schools in the USA and Canada. Anyone can get authorized to start a school.
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(06-16-2022, 11:24 PM)Dumber Wrote: (06-16-2022, 10:50 PM)ashkir Wrote: While an argument for evaluation goes on. There are many different accreditors. You all are arguing semantics. ENEB is authorized by a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY to grant degrees with Isabel. This is what should matter.
Evaluation equivalents are typically used for further schooling. You should want options.
I took and finished the MBA from ENEB, I can say it was a good amount of work for me, for my research as I took it seriously. My finals were about the same size as it was for UMPI. It's basically a competency based master's degree. If you all have a problem with them, then you should have a problem with this entire forum as almost every program is similar.
There is something very unseemly in your post post, marginalized and racialized people can spot it from a mile away. However, There are many useless authorized schools in the USA and Canada. Anyone can get authorized to start a school. Schools have to start somewhere. In my state, a school has to operate for a number of years, before they can get authorization, then they have to operate even longer for RA accreditation,
It really depends on your goal. ENEB can be a pathway for someone to achieve something else. Nearly every person on this forum has used an unaccredited provider to get an accredited credit somewhere else. Why is this different?
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Dumber Wrote:Call me cynical! I find it intriguing that we have this misleading headline from a senior moderator” Foreign Academic Evaluator Says ENEB MBA = USA RA Accredited MBA” ENEB should be replaced with Ui1 because there nowhere in the unofficial valuation is ENEB mentioned only Ui1. So we dismissed a known entity as WES and then esteem an unknown entity Validential. I will definitely go with Validential because it seems to have a lower standard but that is not the point.
The thread and headline/title was started by a member, not moderator, Kal Di. I agree, the title should be changed, let me update that to "ENEB MBA - Foreign Academic Evaluation Results". I think it being short and simple would be better.
I also wrote about Validential and their sister company CreditEval, they seem to be "middle of the road" options, not fully on par with most AICE or NACES members yet, but seem better reviewed than some other Academic Evaluators.
In regards to evaluation companies, they all vary so wildly in regards to how they dictate academic course by course equivalences, I remember a post in regards to HW MBA being evaluated as an Associates degree and a CISSP being equal to a Masters!
Not all AICE or NACES members are equal, there are some that have a high rating and some that have a 1.5/5 star rating, it all depends on how people perceive their customer service and their outcome of the evaluated documents being favorable or not.
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(06-16-2022, 11:37 PM)ashkir Wrote: (06-16-2022, 11:24 PM)Dumber Wrote: (06-16-2022, 10:50 PM)ashkir Wrote: While an argument for evaluation goes on. There are many different accreditors. You all are arguing semantics. ENEB is authorized by a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY to grant degrees with Isabel. This is what should matter.
Evaluation equivalents are typically used for further schooling. You should want options.
I took and finished the MBA from ENEB, I can say it was a good amount of work for me, for my research as I took it seriously. My finals were about the same size as it was for UMPI. It's basically a competency based master's degree. If you all have a problem with them, then you should have a problem with this entire forum as almost every program is similar.
There is something very unseemly in your post post, marginalized and racialized people can spot it from a mile away. However, There are many useless authorized schools in the USA and Canada. Anyone can get authorized to start a school. Schools have to start somewhere. In my state, a school has to operate for a number of years, before they can get authorization, then they have to operate even longer for RA accreditation,
It really depends on your goal. ENEB can be a pathway for someone to achieve something else. Nearly every person on this forum has used an unaccredited provider to get an accredited credit somewhere else. Why is this different? I have not. Every single one of my credits have come from an accredited university. East Central University is RA (I completed on-campus), SEOSU is RA and B-School is AACSB, and then Duke is RA and B-School is AACSB. I have never done CLEP, etc.
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I wondered how long it would take for Dumber to come along to talk smack about ENEB.
If you don’t like ENEB, that’s fine. Don’t enroll there.
If you need an RA degree from a US school, don’t enroll there.
If you don’t like writing a lot of papers, don’t enroll there.
NO ONE is saying that anyone has to enroll there. Geez.
But if you really can’t afford more than a few hundred bucks right now, and you want to start learning some business concepts and practice your writing and research skills, or maybe just have access to some business Master Classes, then ENEB might be right for you. And, if you get really lucky, you may find an avenue that will accept that credential to meet your needs. Fantastic!
There’s no reason someone has to be a “Debbie Downer” and poo-poo over someone else’s experiences because it doesn’t fit with YOUR needs/wants/expectations. That’s just silly.
And ya know what, I am starting an MBA program in a few weeks that is not at all popular around here. And I probably wouldn’t even recommend it to a lot of people. (Although I may share my experiences here in case others are looking for the same thing). They happened to offer me a program that seems to meet my needs and at a significantly reduced price that I can afford. And isn’t THAT what we all are looking for? A program that fits OUR needs at a price we can afford.
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(06-17-2022, 06:55 AM)Vle045 Wrote: I wondered how long it would take for Dumber to come along to talk smack about ENEB.
If you don’t like ENEB, that’s fine. Don’t enroll there.
If you need an RA degree from a US school, don’t enroll there.
If you don’t like writing a lot of papers, don’t enroll there.
NO ONE is saying that anyone has to enroll there. Geez.
But if you really can’t afford more than a few hundred bucks right now, and you want to start learning some business concepts and practice your writing and research skills, or maybe just have access to some business Master Classes, then ENEB might be right for you. And, if you get really lucky, you may find an avenue that will accept that credential to meet your needs. Fantastic!
There’s no reason someone has to be a “Debbie Downer” and poo-poo over someone else’s experiences because it doesn’t fit with YOUR needs/wants/expectations. That’s just silly.
And ya know what, I am starting an MBA program in a few weeks that is not at all popular around here. And I probably wouldn’t even recommend it to a lot of people. (Although I may share my experiences here in case others are looking for the same thing). They happened to offer me a program that seems to meet my needs and at a significantly reduced price that I can afford. And isn’t THAT what we all are looking for? A program that fits OUR needs at a price we can afford. Who exactly are you to tell anyone where to enroll or what to be critical of? I know a lot of moderators have ENEB degrees which is fine. I have one also, but that should not cloud how I see it. And by the way, I have many degrees, too many for my good. I have never discouraged anyone with ENEB. It is a good deal. But something is smelly from my perspective of how Eneb is being marketed here.
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Here is a summary of the evaluation of the transcript sent to WES from ENEB. UI1 does not send the transcript as it is not a UI1 program. I tried!
Country: Spain
Credential Authentication: Documents were sent directly by the institution
Credential: Titulo de master
Awarded by: ENEB
Year:
Status: Non-accredited program
Length of program: one year
Major:
U.S Equivalent: Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution
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God forbid someone have a contrary opinion on ENEB.
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