ENEB Master Thread

[eLearner]

ENEB said they can send a transcript upon my request when I am ready.

Yes, ENEB sends transcripts directly - I had them to send my transcript to former employer. Took a while though.

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Not sure why my question to NoStudentNoCry isn't posting, but I'll try here:

Were they sent by postal mail? Or by email? And how long did it take?

[Dumber]

An ENEB graduate shared his foreign academic evaluation from Validential. You can view the actual document in the attachment. 

[I concealed his identity because he only shared it with a select group of people and the document stated that it is not intended for distribution.] 

While Validential is not a NACES member, they follow AACRAO evaluation guidelines and utilize publicly available information provided by WES (NACES member) and Scholaro (AICE member) to determine academic equivalence. You can view the attached document to see their organizational memberships.

The ENEB graduate completed the MBA degree and Validential evaluated it as an Isabel 1 University master's degree.  

As stated in the evaluation summary, the degree is "the U.S. equivalent of a Master of Business Administration awarded by regionally accredited universities in the United States".

For ENEB prospective and current students, it is important to score at least 7.5 on every course to assure the same foreign academic evaluation from Validential.

I believe other ENEB degrees will receive the same evaluation from Validential because each ENEB course was converted as a 3 credit U.S. graduate course (and all ENEB degree programs have at least 11 courses, equating to 33 U.S. graduate credits).

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I understand that certain employers (e.g. government organizations and select private companies) will only accept a foreign academic evaluation from a NACES member (i.e. WES). In such case, a foreign academic evaluation from Validential will not help those job applicants. 

I also understand that certain private companies may request any foreign academic evaluation from job applicants to prove their degree is a U.S. equivalent. In such case, it helps to have a foreign academic evaluation from Validential.   

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Validential says their "past academic evaluations have been accepted regularly by USCIS (U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security) and various U.S. educational institutions".

Long live Validential! You are the new game in town. I am not sure if there’s or was ever  a dispute on UI1’s status . Keep reaching for the stars, $399 at a time. I saw no mention of ENEB from whatever is posted from validential, that would have been nice. My guess if WES had transcripts from UB1 it would have came back with a very similar result. Why is eneb in the  headline- confirmation bias I assume.

[bjcheung77]

Here's a copy/paste of my post on the sister board in regards to CreditEval and Validential being "sister companies".  Link: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...ost-570428

As I mentioned, the scary thing is not many people know about what these type of schools are doing. If you've read their US Degree Equivalency page, you would see that Validential gave a favorable evaluation for their DBA being equal to US Regional Accreditation. That just made my mouth real bitter, that taste, too bad there's not much we can do to stop them but to inform others to verify as much info before taking any program.

And for those who don't know, Validential also owns a sister evaluation agency, CreditEval... a few months ago, I compared/researched the entire list of AICES, NACES, and ones who follow the AACRAO guidelines/standards and noticed the two have the exact same website with a different logo/name. Since then, they've somewhat updated the websites to make it look different, but their "pricing" page is formatted the same way still.

Edit to Add: And to boot, for their programs, they're trying to "give away" 75% tuition discount disguised as "scholarships". They're practically selling you a PhD that "has" equivalency for a whopping 5K Euro. People who are "frugal" enough will fall prey to that!

[openair]

bjcheung77,

I've made a less explicit reference to this particular case when I wrote the following earlier: "Validential has issued U.S. degree equivalencies for licensed-only French institutions in the past (something which other evaluators might be reluctant to do)."

I agree with your concerns. It's one of the reasons why I would prefer other credential evaluation companies, if I needed an evaluation. At the same time, the judgement of equivalency given to a French licensed-only institution's programs can be defended, I suppose. It's not a crime. As for parent companies, it is a little concerning.

[NoStudentNoCry]

ENEB said they can send a transcript upon my request when I am ready.

Yes, ENEB sends transcripts directly - I had them to send my transcript to former employer. Took a while though.

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Not sure why my question to NoStudentNoCry isn't posting, but I'll try here:

Were they sent by postal mail? Or by email? And how long did it take?

It took a couple of weeks to send transcripts via email.

[bjcheung77]

ENEB said they can send a transcript upon my request when I am ready.

Thank you for sharing this! I was going to do IEE now I wonder if I should use this one.

You may want to wait until you finish your other program and try another NACES member since we know the outcome for this particular provider.  I don't think we need to try IEE unless you really want to, maybe try another NACES member that will offer a "two degree" evaluation for the price of one!  It's course by course $170 or comprehensive $210 if I read this correctly!  However, it may yield an unfavorable review: https://ifcsevals.com/evaluations/

[cacoleman1983]

Validential evaluated Propio degrees from Azteca University as RA equivalent as well. I guess it all boils down to what companies and universities will accept them. Some states list Validential as an approved evaluator in addition to NACES evaluators. Government agencies and universities will usually want a NACES evaluator but those who are in broader and private sectors could easily get away with using Validential or scrape the bottom of the barrel with California University FCE.

If anyone has a hard time finding an evaluator that will give them the desired result that they want, you can always start with the new kids on the block. I also suspect companies that allow non-NACES evaluators may not care that much to have a foreign credential evaluation at all. They will just want to see the appropriate credential documentation along with how it is recognized in that particular country and make their own judgement call.

I would use a progressive NACES evaluator like IEE and maybe top it off with Validential just to have two different opinions to send to the school or government job of choice if the NACES evaluator didn't give full recognition (lesser degree or non-accreditation).

[Dumber]

Now I am intrigued, but I am also very skeptical, seeing that UI1 do not supply transcripts for the eneb arrangement, how does validential get those transcripts to be evaluated? Then why can’t WES or any of the reputable evaluators have access to the same information as validential?

[openair]

Dumber,

Maybe what Validential meant by the 'transcript' is the thing that you see at the back of the Universidad Isabel I's own degree diploma where you have the full listing of all the courses that were taken during the Master program (the awarded ECTS credits are seen on the first page of the degree). I suppose that could be treated as a substitute for the ENEB transcript, the one that features your full grades. They would have access to that, if they saw the Universidad Isabel I degree diploma.

[bjcheung77]

Another example, a competitor to ENEB offering a cheaper package was recently evaluated as equivalent to an EU degree, this person completed a Bachelors and Masters very inexpensively and private messaged me asking which PhD offerings could be completed in 1-2 years for them.

Would you be willing to share names of or links to this competitor's programs?

For the time being ENEB seems like a viable option for those who want to gain some knowledge in the business side of things. As I haven't fully verified the information provided, it's one sided right now, the person didn't have screenshots or anything (documents) to provide me and so I don't know for fact it is evaluated as equal or not. If I do find more info, I'll post my finding on this other partnership...