ENEB Master Thread

[rachel83az]

$250/$300 isn't bad for a grad certificate either.

[Vle045]

Thank you so much for clarifying that. I had no idea. (I haven’t traveled any farther than Canada).

I agree that $200-300 is a steal, regardless of how it is accepted in the US. It could still provide some knowledge. If I sign up for it at some point, I would probably just use it as a “lifelong learning” thing.
If I get an MBA or Masters in something, I would probably want it to be from a RA University.

[cacoleman1983]

Yes, in other words, on the ENEB website, you're looking at "Thousand" dollars and not a few dollars as they are using a period versus using a comma.  With the groupon deal, the cheapest way to get the best bang for the buck is when they offer the MBA & Masters at $250 USD.  The cheapest for just one Masters degree is $217USD.

If you wait till it is not discounted and use the SAVE coupon the dual Masters is $249 so two for the price of one.   For just one Masters,  the lowest you can get it for is $199 USD.  The SAVE coupon takes $50 off of both deals automatically. This is not always the case but this is the lowest I have seen for both.

[eLearner]

I haven't been on this forum in a while but this MCA validation is not worth it.  ENEB Master Propio has already received a non-accredited ( state-approved) Masters degree equivalent from WES which is good considering these Propio degrees are not official and the certification from Isabel I was likely enough to give it atleast a degree recognition instead of no recognition. 

MCA has no recognition above "state-approved" status so you are just paying double the money for a validation paper that will likely not sway a foreign evaluator or school to accept it as an accredited credential.   MCA is no good for ENEB and Universidad Isabel I certification is likely enough.  Having a university certification from an accredited university has been enough for ENEB to get the positive but varied foreign evaluations.   Now if MCA gets some type of recognized accreditation that is national or regional here in the US,  this would be worth it.

ENEB's Master Propio has also received a regionally accredited Bachelor's degree equivalence from ECE, and a regionally accredited graduate diploma equivalence from another evaluator.

MCA wouldn't need to become accredited for the degree to be valid, unaccredited and state-approved is enough to be valid. However, the MCA degree within the ENEB partnership wouldn't even get state-approved status treatment because there is no transcript for MCA degrees awarded to ENEB students. Without a transcript, the degree is worthless in the United States because every school (with almost no exceptions) will require a transcript.

Point blank, the deal is pointless for an American. I think ENEB misunderstands the American system. I believe that deal ended on March 31st (according to them) and they need to never do that again. It was a mistake, a harmless one, but still a mistake that shouldn't be repeated.

[cacoleman1983]

I haven't been on this forum in a while but this MCA validation is not worth it.  ENEB Master Propio has already received a non-accredited ( state-approved) Masters degree equivalent from WES which is good considering these Propio degrees are not official and the certification from Isabel I was likely enough to give it atleast a degree recognition instead of no recognition. 

MCA has no recognition above "state-approved" status so you are just paying double the money for a validation paper that will likely not sway a foreign evaluator or school to accept it as an accredited credential.   MCA is no good for ENEB and Universidad Isabel I certification is likely enough.  Having a university certification from an accredited university has been enough for ENEB to get the positive but varied foreign evaluations.   Now if MCA gets some type of recognized accreditation that is national or regional here in the US,  this would be worth it.

ENEB's Master Propio has also received a regionally accredited Bachelor's degree equivalence from ECE, and a regionally accredited graduate diploma equivalence from another evaluator.

MCA wouldn't need to become accredited for the degree to be valid, unaccredited and state-approved is enough to be valid. However, the MCA degree within the ENEB partnership wouldn't even get state-approved status treatment because there is no transcript for MCA degrees awarded to ENEB students. Without a transcript, the degree is worthless in the United States because every school (with almost no exceptions) will require a transcript.

Point blank, the deal is pointless for an American. I think ENEB misunderstands the American system. I believe that deal ended on March 31st (according to them) and they need to never do that again. It was a mistake, a harmless one, but still a mistake that shouldn't be repeated.

Yes the degree would still be valid without an accreditation with MCA but it would not help get a better evaluation even with a transcript without accreditation I don't think.  They need both accreditation and a transcript to sway an evaluator.  Without either one of those, it would remain worthless.   I could see a few progressive evaluators given it a Masters degree equivalency from a regional accredited school if MCA had atleast one of these.   That would make MCA become similar to a UCN partnership.  

There still may be an evaluator that equates the ENEB degree to a Masters degree from a regionally accredited school with just the Isabel I certification.   With the evaluations we have seen so far, it is possible. So far, the ones we have want to give it less than that either through degree, accreditation, or just evaluating credit hours. All of these are beneficial even with those roadblocks as these are meant for lifelong learning and professional development that fills in the gaps for someone who already has the cake that needs a little icing.

[eLearner]

Yes the degree would still be valid without an accreditation with MCA but it would not help get a better evaluation even with a transcript without accreditation I don't think.  They need both accreditation and a transcript to sway an evaluator.  Without either one of those, it would remain worthless.   I could see a few progressive evaluators given it a Masters degree equivalency from a regional accredited school if MCA had atleast one of these.   That would make MCA become similar to a UCN partnership.

Your point would apply 100% if MCA were only based in Spain, but this wouldn't apply to MCA as it stands because MCA has a base in the United States and that's where the degree would be conferred from. So in that case there wouldn't be a foreign degree evaluation. That being said, while I can see that MCA is registered in the State of Florida, they are not on the Florida approved schools list. That just adds another layer to why this deal is no good.

People and schools that come from foreign locales tend not to understand the difference between being state registered and being state approved in the United States, because in a number of foreign parts it's one in the same for a school (those places tend to be stricter on schools which is why it's like that) and they think it works the same way here. Granted, the receiving school may not care that your unaccredited degree is state approved or not, but when trying to enter schools that generally don't accept unaccredited degrees and coursework it's not a stretch at all to expect a higher level of scrutiny during the admissions process, just high enough for them to check and find out the school you got your unaccredited degree from isn't even state approved. The outcome of that probably won't be favorable since, after all, you would already be trying to get in with an unaccredited degree, it not being state approved would be another knock and way to deny you.

[cacoleman1983]

Yes the degree would still be valid without an accreditation with MCA but it would not help get a better evaluation even with a transcript without accreditation I don't think.  They need both accreditation and a transcript to sway an evaluator.  Without either one of those, it would remain worthless.   I could see a few progressive evaluators given it a Masters degree equivalency from a regional accredited school if MCA had atleast one of these.   That would make MCA become similar to a UCN partnership.

Your point would apply 100% if MCA were only based in Spain, but this wouldn't apply to MCA as it stands because MCA has a base in the United States and that's where the degree would be conferred from. So in that case there wouldn't be a foreign degree evaluation. That being said, while I can see that MCA is registered in the State of Florida, they are not on the Florida approved schools list. That just adds another layer to why this deal is no good.

People and schools that come from foreign locales tend not to understand the difference between being state registered and being state approved in the United States, because in a number of foreign parts it's one in the same for a school (those places tend to be stricter on schools which is why it's like that) and they think it works the same way here. Granted, the receiving school may not care that your unaccredited degree is state approved or not, but when trying to enter schools that generally don't accept unaccredited degrees and coursework it's not a stretch at all to expect a higher level of scrutiny during the admissions process, just high enough for them to check and find out the school you got your unaccredited degree from isn't even state approved. The outcome of that probably won't be favorable since, after all, you would already be trying to get in with an unaccredited degree, it not being state approved would be another knock and way to deny you.

Got it!   So MCA is essentially trying to replace the need of a foreign evaluation by being located here in the USA. Looking at their current price and the fact they have no solid recognition, its best to stick with a foreign evaluator.

[eLearner]

Got it!   So MCA is essentially trying to replace the need of a foreign evaluation by being located here in the USA.  Looking at their current price and the fact they have no solid recognition,  its best to stick with a foreign evaluator.

I mean, we can reasonably speculate that's one of their reasons for it, but only speculate. 

The ENEB-MCA deal simply needed to include a transcript from MCA and then it would've been a great deal. Without it, it's junk because virtually no school in the United States will accept a degree without a transcript. And, if an employer asks for it you're screwed there, too.

[rockyskay]

To do this, and for this purpose.

[Vle045]

Looks like it is on sale again today. I am guessing they put it on sale often.