Not to mention that if you look locally there are plenty of state congresses, governors, mayors, etc. to add to the blame list. Maryland has been spending money it doesn't have for decades. Eventually the whole country is going to need a bailout, and there will be no where to turn.
Conservatives and liberals who simply argue that it is the President's fault for everything just add to the pointless partisan arguments that do nothing but give news shows ratings and make the pundits wealthy...[/QUOTE]
Hey, I've given it to all of them. NJ Democrats are about as crooked as they come. I mean, we have an election for governor coming up and the Republican (Christie) could probably assure himself of a win if he gave specifics, and he won't do that. I'm shocked by that to be honest w/you. As for Bush, if WMD were found (no, they weren't, they didn't go underground in mass quantity in the middle of the night, [SIZE="2"]they weren't sneaked out,[/SIZE] [SIZE="1"]they wern't....[/SIZE], Enuff of that), I believe he would not be looked at quite so badly. I wouldn't have felt quite that way about him. If Iraq had what the previous administration said they had and we were possible intended targets, heck, he probably would've been looked at as a hero. We know the rest. He listened to that bonehead Cheney and crackpot Rumsfeld. As for healthcare and the socialist scare, what a bunch of bull. Since we have plenty of money to throw around for each election, especially the wealthy, along w/PAC money and money to fight against the Public Option, we have enough $$$ to have a public option. Coverage for all I say. There is sooooooo much money out there for all this graft but try to do the decent thing and help the unfortunate out and there is a huge public outcry. It's as if they (unfortunate) are bringing this country down. More BULLSH%#. It is the wealthy's thumb coming down on those that don't really have a voice. Take all those MBA's and advanced degrees and throw me some numbers, they don't mean crap to me. I know what it is about. It's walkin like a duck, quacking like a duck, therefore it must be a ________! What if this public option turned out to be a good thing, I mean the insurance company is already flippin us off. As for the death squads, there is a mild form right now in this country in case you hadn't noticed. My dad was a tough man who had a bad surgery, I won't go into the details. There were mistakes. He came out not the same. They could never stop the bleeding inside nor were they sure where it was coming from. Finally, they kept after my Mom to sign papers which effectively ended his life. She, and I have guilt to this day. These are the FACTS! Others have experienced the same I am sure. The cost is too great on the system, those of us who are slowly coming into this realm realize what is going on. Obama and his administration aren't creating death panels, they are here now in a different form. And to those of you who are young and just starting out, you should realize the crisis you will face if you don't harp on the wealthy (unless you are wealthy yourself). You don't have pensions to look forward to, no affordable health care, good chance of no SS, a warmer climate, your future is not starting out looking rosy. Heck, you can't even find jobs. You keep hearing about debt (and it is a huge concern) but to do nothing in these times will create even less jobs. You see older people (teachers, police, firemen, gov't employees) living on nice cushy pensions, you won't have that. If the system wasn't so corrupt and greedy, there would be enough for everyone but nobody is giving it up. If you back the wealthy, don't believe for a minute they will create jobs for you and they will really care about you, that is a big mistake. They will give themselves and their friends much greater amounts of money, just look at the past. You've heard it before, don't fall for the misdirection. Rush has a $24 million, 36,500-square-foot oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, Florida. No kids. He is not remotely in tune w/you. Wake up young people, the Obama smear is just an attempt by the wealthy to get back to where they were before, at your expense. If your waiting and hoping they will get you going again, you are sadly mistaken. Now, the other side will come after me. Pay close attention, who really is making more sense? There is an undercurrent of racism toward Obama, the socialist cry is nothing more than many (not all) saying that your hard earned money will be going to pay for welfare and other programs. Here is what is meant by that, I'll tell you, they won't. The poor and lazy, many being minorities, just want to kick back and live off "your" money. They are angering you, creating a baseless base, using you to take back the office that so lavishly graced their lives before. Are there lazy people? Heck yea! But look at the wealthy lifestyle and tell me who really is the lazy basta$#. We work, get results, and they play. Keep up your hope, but I wouldn't fall for that. W/the way things are going, maybe a little socialism in our system is what we need. I mean, take a snapshot, what has the alternative produced? Over and out!
Conservatives and liberals who simply argue that it is the President's fault for everything just add to the pointless partisan arguments that do nothing but give news shows ratings and make the pundits wealthy...[/QUOTE]
Hey, I've given it to all of them. NJ Democrats are about as crooked as they come. I mean, we have an election for governor coming up and the Republican (Christie) could probably assure himself of a win if he gave specifics, and he won't do that. I'm shocked by that to be honest w/you. As for Bush, if WMD were found (no, they weren't, they didn't go underground in mass quantity in the middle of the night, [SIZE="2"]they weren't sneaked out,[/SIZE] [SIZE="1"]they wern't....[/SIZE], Enuff of that), I believe he would not be looked at quite so badly. I wouldn't have felt quite that way about him. If Iraq had what the previous administration said they had and we were possible intended targets, heck, he probably would've been looked at as a hero. We know the rest. He listened to that bonehead Cheney and crackpot Rumsfeld. As for healthcare and the socialist scare, what a bunch of bull. Since we have plenty of money to throw around for each election, especially the wealthy, along w/PAC money and money to fight against the Public Option, we have enough $$$ to have a public option. Coverage for all I say. There is sooooooo much money out there for all this graft but try to do the decent thing and help the unfortunate out and there is a huge public outcry. It's as if they (unfortunate) are bringing this country down. More BULLSH%#. It is the wealthy's thumb coming down on those that don't really have a voice. Take all those MBA's and advanced degrees and throw me some numbers, they don't mean crap to me. I know what it is about. It's walkin like a duck, quacking like a duck, therefore it must be a ________! What if this public option turned out to be a good thing, I mean the insurance company is already flippin us off. As for the death squads, there is a mild form right now in this country in case you hadn't noticed. My dad was a tough man who had a bad surgery, I won't go into the details. There were mistakes. He came out not the same. They could never stop the bleeding inside nor were they sure where it was coming from. Finally, they kept after my Mom to sign papers which effectively ended his life. She, and I have guilt to this day. These are the FACTS! Others have experienced the same I am sure. The cost is too great on the system, those of us who are slowly coming into this realm realize what is going on. Obama and his administration aren't creating death panels, they are here now in a different form. And to those of you who are young and just starting out, you should realize the crisis you will face if you don't harp on the wealthy (unless you are wealthy yourself). You don't have pensions to look forward to, no affordable health care, good chance of no SS, a warmer climate, your future is not starting out looking rosy. Heck, you can't even find jobs. You keep hearing about debt (and it is a huge concern) but to do nothing in these times will create even less jobs. You see older people (teachers, police, firemen, gov't employees) living on nice cushy pensions, you won't have that. If the system wasn't so corrupt and greedy, there would be enough for everyone but nobody is giving it up. If you back the wealthy, don't believe for a minute they will create jobs for you and they will really care about you, that is a big mistake. They will give themselves and their friends much greater amounts of money, just look at the past. You've heard it before, don't fall for the misdirection. Rush has a $24 million, 36,500-square-foot oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, Florida. No kids. He is not remotely in tune w/you. Wake up young people, the Obama smear is just an attempt by the wealthy to get back to where they were before, at your expense. If your waiting and hoping they will get you going again, you are sadly mistaken. Now, the other side will come after me. Pay close attention, who really is making more sense? There is an undercurrent of racism toward Obama, the socialist cry is nothing more than many (not all) saying that your hard earned money will be going to pay for welfare and other programs. Here is what is meant by that, I'll tell you, they won't. The poor and lazy, many being minorities, just want to kick back and live off "your" money. They are angering you, creating a baseless base, using you to take back the office that so lavishly graced their lives before. Are there lazy people? Heck yea! But look at the wealthy lifestyle and tell me who really is the lazy basta$#. We work, get results, and they play. Keep up your hope, but I wouldn't fall for that. W/the way things are going, maybe a little socialism in our system is what we need. I mean, take a snapshot, what has the alternative produced? Over and out!
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