05-28-2024, 01:17 PM
@Sanantone
Healthcare administration is, technically, a healthcare field as far as academics go. It just isn't a clinical or scientific field. Healthcare administration professors can be employed in a business department, public health department, health professions department, or medical school. It just depends on how the college chooses to house their programs. Starting in a clinical role is the easiest way to get into healthcare administration because employers value that experience.
It's all about what the person wants to do. Many in patient-facing positions want to move on to management and administrative positions. Some of them might want to teach healthcare administration/management, health science, or public health instead of classes related to their former clinical roles. If a former counselor wants to teach counseling, then I would recommend a CACREP-accredited doctorate because holding a CACREP-accredited degree is increasingly becoming required for clinical mental health or professional counseling faculty.
Considering that the OP is going after clinical degrees, it appeared that the OP's interest is in teaching clinical programs at some point. I don't think there is any confusion on what Healthcare Administration degrees aim for, I just think it's important for people who are interested in a clinical path to know that the typical DHSc in the United States is really a Healthcare Administration degree rather than a degree meant for patient-facing purposes.
Outside of fields that have programmatic accreditation requirements or preferences, sometimes it's not necessary to have a doctorate that's directly related to what you're teaching. Sometimes, it just needs to be semi-related because you'll be relying on your master's degree to be considered qualified faculty. It used to be easier to get a job teaching in applied fields with just a master's degree, but with the market becoming so competitive, you just need a doctorate to check the box. A lot of people get generic EdDs just so they can be competitive for tenure-track positions.
I've known people to do that kind of thing even below the Doctoral level, but I've never seen the point of doing that unless a person isn't sure of what they want to do, but if that's the case they shouldn't be getting a Doctorate in anything. Come Doctorate time, a person should be certain of what they want to do. Besides that, not going after the exact Doctorate in the very thing you intend to do with your life is just a wasted opportunity to learn and sharpen your expertise in that thing, and be locked-in and interested in your personal growth.
Virginia's applied psychology license requires a psychology doctorate housed in a psychology department and taught by psychologists. The doctorate just doesn't have to be in health services psychology, which is school psychology, clinical psychology, and counseling psychology. The applied psychology license is for people who earned what would be considered non-license-eligible psychology doctorates in almost every other state.
That wasn't quite what I remembered reading back when I did, but upon a second review I see that line 'A' of the Virginia law states: "The applicant shall hold a doctorate from a professional psychology program from a regionally accredited university." So that would of course eliminate all of the programs he mentioned before even getting to the other stipulations.
Healthcare administration is, technically, a healthcare field as far as academics go. It just isn't a clinical or scientific field. Healthcare administration professors can be employed in a business department, public health department, health professions department, or medical school. It just depends on how the college chooses to house their programs. Starting in a clinical role is the easiest way to get into healthcare administration because employers value that experience.
It's all about what the person wants to do. Many in patient-facing positions want to move on to management and administrative positions. Some of them might want to teach healthcare administration/management, health science, or public health instead of classes related to their former clinical roles. If a former counselor wants to teach counseling, then I would recommend a CACREP-accredited doctorate because holding a CACREP-accredited degree is increasingly becoming required for clinical mental health or professional counseling faculty.
Considering that the OP is going after clinical degrees, it appeared that the OP's interest is in teaching clinical programs at some point. I don't think there is any confusion on what Healthcare Administration degrees aim for, I just think it's important for people who are interested in a clinical path to know that the typical DHSc in the United States is really a Healthcare Administration degree rather than a degree meant for patient-facing purposes.
Outside of fields that have programmatic accreditation requirements or preferences, sometimes it's not necessary to have a doctorate that's directly related to what you're teaching. Sometimes, it just needs to be semi-related because you'll be relying on your master's degree to be considered qualified faculty. It used to be easier to get a job teaching in applied fields with just a master's degree, but with the market becoming so competitive, you just need a doctorate to check the box. A lot of people get generic EdDs just so they can be competitive for tenure-track positions.
I've known people to do that kind of thing even below the Doctoral level, but I've never seen the point of doing that unless a person isn't sure of what they want to do, but if that's the case they shouldn't be getting a Doctorate in anything. Come Doctorate time, a person should be certain of what they want to do. Besides that, not going after the exact Doctorate in the very thing you intend to do with your life is just a wasted opportunity to learn and sharpen your expertise in that thing, and be locked-in and interested in your personal growth.
Virginia's applied psychology license requires a psychology doctorate housed in a psychology department and taught by psychologists. The doctorate just doesn't have to be in health services psychology, which is school psychology, clinical psychology, and counseling psychology. The applied psychology license is for people who earned what would be considered non-license-eligible psychology doctorates in almost every other state.
That wasn't quite what I remembered reading back when I did, but upon a second review I see that line 'A' of the Virginia law states: "The applicant shall hold a doctorate from a professional psychology program from a regionally accredited university." So that would of course eliminate all of the programs he mentioned before even getting to the other stipulations.
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