(05-14-2024, 01:53 PM)Ares Wrote:(05-10-2024, 01:52 PM)sanantone Wrote:(05-10-2024, 01:31 PM)Ares Wrote:(05-09-2024, 03:35 PM)sanantone Wrote: This doesn't matter for federal civilian jobs; I can't speak for DoD jobs. HR specialists will look at the degree name and courses. [...] To be honest, this shouldn't have been pinned because it's making people freak out for no reason. I've had four jobs with the federal government, several more job offers, many interviews, and many more referrals.
You cannot make such a sweeping generalized claim based on your anecdotal experience. So you have checked the job requirements and have gone through the application process for all 2.8 million U.S. federal jobs? I don't think so.
Just the fact that TESU is misleading with it's degree titles vs. their corresponding CIP codes is alarming in of itself and that alone deserves for this to be pinned. Once this is more well known it could be used by any employer do disqualify a candidate based on them lacking relevant qualifications.
...I've put in over 500 job applications in many different fields. I've been referred for scientist, law enforcement, emergency management, security, human resources, social services, legal, analyst, cybersecurity, and tax positions. You need to meet the education and/or experience requirement to get a referral. [...]
Has anyone else here had four different jobs in the federal government. How many of you have even interviewed for several jobs with the federal government?
You do know what the definition of "anecdotal" is?
LOL. Do you know what OPM is? That's your response to an official government directive? The OP provided no evidence for that claim, anecdotal or not. Yet, you aren't questioning why their information differs from what OPM and government job ads say. Go ahead and believe whatever fairy tales you want to believe.
(09-05-2023, 05:14 PM)spohara Wrote: I'm curious where CIP codes are used in government. I've never heard of the requirement. Fortunately I did the CS degree, but I'm pretty sure for a 1560 series (my original intention with it) it would count regardless of the CIP code because of the way the series is written. Is it organization specific or series specific?
It's been almost a year, and no one has responded to you with any evidence for this claim. They haven't responded to you at all. That's okay. I provided OPM's instructions for determining education eligibility, but someone can still provide an example of a non-DoD job that needs the degree to match the CIP code. There has to be at least one example out there. Maybe Ares has it.
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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A&P
Davar
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