03-15-2024, 12:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2024, 12:29 PM by armstrongsubero.)
Well I read what people said about ENEB and the quality of coursework doesn't seem stringent. I read on either this or the sister forum, some evaluators won't even evaluate ENEB anymore. For me its not only about getting the paper but actually learning, I think I'll learn more from this MBA than ENEB.
I understand the propio and level system etc etc.
It definitely has more merit in terms of EDUCATIONAL VALUE not necessarily recognition. ENEB currently has more recognition but less educational value in my opinion. This university is very traditional and I think they'll have no problem getting accreditation eventually.
I also understand its a bare minimum requirement to make a degree legal, it however make the degree legal. I won't be turning any heads with the degree, but I also won't be locked up by the cops if I place it on a resume. I'm working already and have my business, I'm hoping to get skills I can use.
The institution has to start somewhere. If I had kept with UoP (now regional accreditation candidacy) and Smart.ly (now Quantic School of Business and Technology) and even NationsUniversity (after unaccredited for 2 decades, now DEAC) then I would have had nothing to worry about I would have gotten a BSc at UoP for free (yes it was completely free) and an MBA from Smart.ly for free as well. Instead, I listened to persons just like @openair and avoided them....
Somebody somewhere has to take the risk. A legal MBA where I actually learned something is better than a legal postgrad cert where I really didn't learn much IMO.
Unaccredited doesn't mean "fake" or "mill". Schools need to graduate students and prove they can sustain themselves and meet certain requirements before they get granted institutional accreditation or even programmatic accreditation.
I think #1 goal for education is "can the program help me meet my needs?". The answer for me in this case is yes. I may actually learn some business skills I can apply and get a legal paper in the process. At this stage in my career I care less about what papers I have and more about what I can learn to apply to my needs.
Worse case they close down and I would have did some business courses. I see they also already have an articulation agreement in place, so I'm sure that school will accept them it's how I stumbled across them in the first place looking at schools in the UK asked about a program and the school mentioned the articulation agreement they had with RCU. I had a discussion with RCU administration and decided the program will meet my needs.
If they do crash, the school they have the articulation agreement with I believe will take some of their credits, cause like I said unaccredited doesn't mean fake. I remember a few years ago board members on either this or the sister forum stated Liberty University would have accepted credits from NationsUniversity even though they were unaccredited.
What I do notice is as the recognition went up, so did the pricing.
Accreditation from day 1 doesn't guarantee a school will be successful. I've watched a school with a diploma mill sounding name (University of the People) go from offering free unaccredited degrees to cheap NA and now having RA candidacy and now there are schools that are cheaper with similar value prospect...I also watch a respected school (Patten University) go from having RA to going to NA and then unaccredited and closing. Also saw CIE go from being a respected NA school, a pioneer as a matter of fact to losing accreditation and closing.
Thanks for your views though. I'm hoping to lock in this school with promise while its still in the early stages. Someone has to enroll sometime for the school to become accredited, its a risk but your reward is a low-cost degree. When it does get accreditation the price will inevitably go up and as prestige grows so does pricing....
I'll keep updating as I go along...
I understand the propio and level system etc etc.
It definitely has more merit in terms of EDUCATIONAL VALUE not necessarily recognition. ENEB currently has more recognition but less educational value in my opinion. This university is very traditional and I think they'll have no problem getting accreditation eventually.
I also understand its a bare minimum requirement to make a degree legal, it however make the degree legal. I won't be turning any heads with the degree, but I also won't be locked up by the cops if I place it on a resume. I'm working already and have my business, I'm hoping to get skills I can use.
The institution has to start somewhere. If I had kept with UoP (now regional accreditation candidacy) and Smart.ly (now Quantic School of Business and Technology) and even NationsUniversity (after unaccredited for 2 decades, now DEAC) then I would have had nothing to worry about I would have gotten a BSc at UoP for free (yes it was completely free) and an MBA from Smart.ly for free as well. Instead, I listened to persons just like @openair and avoided them....
Somebody somewhere has to take the risk. A legal MBA where I actually learned something is better than a legal postgrad cert where I really didn't learn much IMO.
Unaccredited doesn't mean "fake" or "mill". Schools need to graduate students and prove they can sustain themselves and meet certain requirements before they get granted institutional accreditation or even programmatic accreditation.
I think #1 goal for education is "can the program help me meet my needs?". The answer for me in this case is yes. I may actually learn some business skills I can apply and get a legal paper in the process. At this stage in my career I care less about what papers I have and more about what I can learn to apply to my needs.
Worse case they close down and I would have did some business courses. I see they also already have an articulation agreement in place, so I'm sure that school will accept them it's how I stumbled across them in the first place looking at schools in the UK asked about a program and the school mentioned the articulation agreement they had with RCU. I had a discussion with RCU administration and decided the program will meet my needs.
If they do crash, the school they have the articulation agreement with I believe will take some of their credits, cause like I said unaccredited doesn't mean fake. I remember a few years ago board members on either this or the sister forum stated Liberty University would have accepted credits from NationsUniversity even though they were unaccredited.
What I do notice is as the recognition went up, so did the pricing.
Accreditation from day 1 doesn't guarantee a school will be successful. I've watched a school with a diploma mill sounding name (University of the People) go from offering free unaccredited degrees to cheap NA and now having RA candidacy and now there are schools that are cheaper with similar value prospect...I also watch a respected school (Patten University) go from having RA to going to NA and then unaccredited and closing. Also saw CIE go from being a respected NA school, a pioneer as a matter of fact to losing accreditation and closing.
Thanks for your views though. I'm hoping to lock in this school with promise while its still in the early stages. Someone has to enroll sometime for the school to become accredited, its a risk but your reward is a low-cost degree. When it does get accreditation the price will inevitably go up and as prestige grows so does pricing....
I'll keep updating as I go along...
GRADUATE
Master of Business Administration, Robert Cavelier University (2024-2025)
MS Information and Communication Technology (UK IET Accredited) (On Hold)
Master of Theological Studies, Nations University (6 cr)
UNDERGRAD : 184 Credits
BA Computer Science, TESU '19
BA Liberal Studies, TESU '19
AS Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU '19
StraighterLine (27 Cr) Shmoop (18 Cr) Sophia (11 Cr)
TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr) ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr) Study.com (39 Cr)
TESU (4 cr)
TT B&M (46 Cr) Nations University (9 cr) UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)
Master of Business Administration, Robert Cavelier University (2024-2025)
MS Information and Communication Technology (UK IET Accredited) (On Hold)
Master of Theological Studies, Nations University (6 cr)
UNDERGRAD : 184 Credits
BA Computer Science, TESU '19
BA Liberal Studies, TESU '19
AS Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU '19
StraighterLine (27 Cr) Shmoop (18 Cr) Sophia (11 Cr)
TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr) ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr) Study.com (39 Cr)
TESU (4 cr)
TT B&M (46 Cr) Nations University (9 cr) UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)