07-11-2023, 03:28 AM
(07-11-2023, 02:41 AM)הארי101 Wrote: Guess il have to go into TLDR. I feel like it needs to be emphasized that the topic at hand was always higher education accreditation and DBA/PhD's. Also a notion, if it's Ecole it can not be therefore University.
From the Ministry;
"Higher education is free, but the State is the only one to issue degrees and university titles: private educational establishments (Les écoles de commerce et de gestion) cannot therefore issue national diplomas. However, once they are recognized by the State, business schools can issue diplomas approved by the Ministry of Higher Education and Research after evaluation by a national body: the training evaluation commission and Management Diplomas (CEFDG), created for this purpose!"
"Training quality control
The CEFDG's mission is to control the quality of the training offered and, through its assessments, proposes to the Minister the authorization to issue a diploma in question. This can be granted by ministerial decree after consulting the CNESER. In order to respond to a desire for transparency and information on training in private schools in the field of management, there is a website http://www.cefdg.fr: it includes the list of targeted training. Only the courses listed on this site are authorized by the M.E.S.R. to issue a diploma on behalf of the State and to confer the degree of master."
This was the first link in my posts;
1. https://www.cefdg.fr/fr/ecoles-et-formations-visees
"This site is intended for all players in higher education interested in training delivered by business and management schools, recognized by the State and subject to evaluation by the Commission for the Evaluation of Training and Management Diplomas (CEFDG).
On this site are present the training courses of business and management schools (écoles de commerce et de gestion), private or consular, authorized by the State to issue a diploma aimed at level Bac + 3 to Bac + 5 and which can, if necessary, confer the grade license or master's degree to their holders.
The CEFDG is the only competent national body for the evaluation of training in this field and it guarantees their quality!"
This covers all the registered Higher educational Institutions accredited.
For the programs they offer, Bachelor and Master. For PhD's this site is for reference:
https://www.enseignementsup-recherche.go...orat-46523
Lets take an example, for instance HEC Paris, a well know Institution on this sub. You will find HEC Paris listed https://www.cefdg.fr/fr/ecoles-et-formations-visees and on top of it https://www.enseignementsup-recherche.go...orat-46523 with ease. But you will not find ESGCI on those two.
"No matter how you spin it, the French state recognizes the institution, in one way or another.
2 links from the French Minisry of Education it is more than enough."
<< It does just not for higher education.
In France there are 89,940 recognized educational institutions - from high schools, colleges and universities.
120 selected institutions appear in the lists you are presenting.
But this does not mean that the one not on the list is not a recognized institution for research and studying academic degrees.
I don't understand why it is difficult for you to acknowledge that the state recognizes the institution when I sent you 2 definitive references on the matter including the name of the institution, address, study specialization from the French government websites.
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