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Shocker - Common Core not giving good outcomes
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(01-06-2020, 07:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(01-06-2020, 04:58 AM)PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote: Most importantly, though, these families also have the funds to pursue higher education, which is often considered beyond the reach of many Americans. I've found that even on this forum, one that intends to democratize access to higher education, posting opinions about universal education or student loan forgiveness is met with refrains similar to "I've already got mine." It presents a really remarkable dichotomy for me, but that's politicizing a topic, too... 

So, first, since you don't live here, you won't be paying for the degrees of anyone, so it's kind of hard to take this seriously from you.

This is not cool at all. Just how "serious" is a forum discussion, anyway? ChiGuy obviously has some insight into the subject, and I, for one, value his input.

(01-06-2020, 07:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Let's let the market take care of this, which we are already seeing - many families are seeing the student loan crisis and saying "no thanks" and sending their kids to CC first, kids are taking gap years to save up money, students are choosing trade schools, students are choosing less expensive options, etc.  The market WILL take care of this problem if we let it.  But paying for everyone who made bad decisions is NOT going to make people make better decisions in the future.

I haven't noticed the "market" helping with the process AT ALL. Pretty much all of the affordable college options are public schools, not market driven options. If we truly left it to the market, I expect that the rich would be going to expensive schools and the rest of us would have no access at all. A truly free market always devolves into a wealth gap.

Beef up the public university system, take control of it's spending and we could make it easier to access and more uniformly affordable. THEN we could consider junking the current aid system.
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