(06-01-2018, 10:22 PM)MNomadic Wrote: But What I've found in life is that if someone wants something, they will search for and find it. They will also find a way to make it happen. I have talked to many of my old highschool friends who're at dead ends in their lives and wanted my counsel. I've explained to them dozens of ways that they can improve their situation and they've responded with dozens of excuses as to why they couldn't (not saying this is a comprehensive sampling of everyone's situation throughout the population). Long story short, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Employers and organizations in this country are bending over backwards to help people elevate their career who complain about not making $15 minimum wage. But many are not willing to work to earn a higher pay.
Yeah, I know people who talk about going back to school, and I try to encourage them to just enroll in one class at a time, because I think everyone can fit that in, if they want to. They would rather watch more TV, drink, etc. These are not lazy people either. They work a lot. But they can't seem to feel like it's an obtainable goal. They seem to know that they'd just end up dropping out.
(06-01-2018, 10:22 PM)MNomadic Wrote: Another friend was continually complaining about how hungry he is cuz he can't afford much food but when I tried to explain to him about his VA benefits and how he could probably get training for a better job, he immediately said school wasn't for him.
I can see why many people think school isn't for them. I think a lot of students had too many years of traditional education with too many lectures, too much emphasis on memorizing so you can just pass, etc. Even someone who loves learning can be really turned off by traditional schooling.
(06-01-2018, 11:09 PM)sanantone Wrote:(06-01-2018, 11:06 PM)Ideas Wrote: I think the quality of online education varies a lot. And depends on the student. Some online courses are well designed so that the student learns the material and retains it, and that the student basically cannot pass without at least learning a dozen of the main concepts.
Other courses seem set up in a way that if someone was less motivated, they could put little effort in and still pass. They could learn very little, like probably not even understanding some of the top concepts, and forget anything they learned.
I don't see how this differs from on-campus courses.
Hm, yeah. I guess I feel like online has even more spread. And that the fact that some are so poor leads to them having a bad reputation. People not realizing that they just saw/heard of one of the worst examples and that there are some really well done courses too.