02-20-2013, 12:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-20-2013, 12:34 AM by cooperalex2004.)
sanantone Wrote:Cooperalex......I don't know why you do this all the time. :p AOJ courses are not inherently prohibited from social sciences per TESC's webpage which lists a few AOJ courses as being acceptable as social sciences. Yes, one should confirm with advisement through email (not phone), but there are issues with the human services category. In another thread, someone just had their Fundamentals of Counseling DSST counted as a social science and PSY-331 without having to ask (this has to be the millionth person by now?). That is also listed under human services as COU-something. I didn't take the DSSTs, but I had AOJ-101 (Intro to LE) and AOJ-102 (Intro to CJ) transcribed as social sciences. TESC would not code the DSSTs as AOJ-101 and AOJ-102 if they did not have the same content as their SOCIAL SCIENCE courses. They would be given their own code. I wouldn't say it's officially not valid since TESC has had mistakes on their webpages in the past.
You can see here that TESC counts 5 of its AOJ courses as social sciences including Intro to CJ (AOJ-102).
Thomas Edison State College: General Education Electives
Since the question was about one particular exam, I stand by what I said. I even wrote that there may be an exception, but that this was the published match to that exam. I realize there are many ways around what is listed as a course match, I myself made a ton of strange course changes to make my degree plan, but when people ask about a specific exam the short answer for most of the cases is that for anyone who is hoping for a perfect match, the safest bet is to follow TESC's matches and not to give them hope about how someone else did it in the past. It is sad to see people each week or two who have utilized other users degree plans only to find out that something has changed or that TESC won't code something a certain way. The recent mess with the AAS Capstone is a perfect example, users could have added the degree months earlier and not have gotten locked in to the capstone, but chose to wait for one of many reasons and now what worked for me and many other users no longer works. As you said, the only safe way to proceed is to get something in writing. I try to give good advice and not provide too much hope about changing too many course matches, in many cases is it just easier to take a different exam or course instead of going through the process of fighting a course match. For those who are still planning and not enrolled (which would lock you into a catalog year and into a planned out set of courses), the best advice I can give (in my opinion) is to follow the course matches that are given by the school. Once you enroll you can always use the information from this site to challenge the matches and you'll often win the fight, but I don't like seeing people given the advice to hope for something that is less than guaranteed in many cases. My advice is more on the safe side and is to hope for the best but plan for the worst. Until someone is locked in and has their degree planned out, nothing is truly set in stone and things can (and do) change without notice at TESC and other schools.
My completed "non-traditional" credits include 27 credits from CLEP, 30 credits from DSST, 6 credits from ALEKS, 19 credits from FEMA courses including PDS, 3 credits from NFA courses, 10 credits from ACE Workplace Training, 3 credits from a TESC TECEP exam, and 3 credits from a TESC PLA course.