Trying to decide between these two grad schools

[daniellevine]

I've been pouring over master's programs for the last two weeks. I've narrowed it down to two schools which are very different. Some advice would be helpful, as right now I am very torn between the two. I am about to get my BS Liberal Studies at Excelsior, and now I'm looking to earn a postgrad degree in a business related field. I don't have a lot of prereqs for either program, although I do have some professional experience and I've decided I'd rather go this route than a humanities-based master's. I would be lying if I said I didn't want to make more money, but I'd also be lying if I said I didn't want to enjoy school. So, here are my top choices.

University of Massachusetts, Lowell. Master of Business Administration.

Pros: This school is AACSB-approved, and assuming that I can find an employer to supplement the costs, it is a good long-term investment. It is a rare find because it is very low priced for AACSB, entirely online, and only 30 credits. The prereqs are not as bad as other schools, and so far the staff has been very attentive. I can't overemphasize the AACSB accreditation and brand-name recognition.

Cons: Although a good value, it will cost around $15,0000 before textbooks for the whole program. The program is very traditional and structured; honestly, I'm not sure if the traditional MBA-program, which is very financially and structurally based, is going to appeal to me. It will take around 2 years to complete.

Amberton University. Master of Business Administration (Strategic Leadership) OR Master of Arts, Professional Development.

Pros: It is regionally accredited, which is nothing to be ashamed of. The bread and butter is the flexibility of both programs. I can end up with a 36-credit master's degree by taking almost exclusively courses that I really like (leadership, conflict management, communication.) I can also get up to THREE graduate certificates, as the classes for the master's programs also apply towards certificates, AND certificates can overlap classes. Furthermore, I can transfer in classes from VESi for 9-12 credits, which are extremely cheap. Speaking of cheap, the school is off-the-radar inexpensive for RA schools. Also, I can complete this degree in a year to 18 months, and within that time frame I can keep adding certificates to my resume.

Cons: Not AACSB is the biggest drawback. The lack of name recognition could really hurt in a competitive market in Silicon Valley, If I later decided to get AACSB, I would then need to start over from scratch. I'm just worried that the degree will be seen as "second-tier," whereas UMass Lowell will probably just be assumed brick-and-mortar from a reputable school. Maybe this fear is irrational, but I wonder if a resume littered with certificates is seen by employers as a resume with a lot of easy, online certificates. As much as I hate to say, perception matters more than reality in the professional world. I can say with little doubt that Amberton will improve my overall skills and make be a better professional, but UMass will make me look much better on paper and open more opportunities.


So, that is my dilemma. I still have time to make the decision, but I should make a decision soon if I want to get started on my prereqs.

[norema]

I've been pouring over master's programs for the last two weeks. I've narrowed it down to two schools which are very different. Some advice would be helpful, as right now I am very torn between the two. I am about to get my BS Liberal Studies at Excelsior, and now I'm looking to earn a postgrad degree in a business related field. I don't have a lot of prereqs for either program, although I do have some professional experience and I've decided I'd rather go this route than a humanities-based master's. I would be lying if I said I didn't want to make more money, but I'd also be lying if I said I didn't want to enjoy school. So, here are my top choices.

University of Massachusetts, Lowell. Master of Business Administration.

Pros: This school is AACSB-approved, and assuming that I can find an employer to supplement the costs, it is a good long-term investment. It is a rare find because it is very low priced for AACSB, entirely online, and only 30 credits. The prereqs are not as bad as other schools, and so far the staff has been very attentive. I can't overemphasize the AACSB accreditation and brand-name recognition.

Cons: Although a good value, it will cost around $15,0000 before textbooks for the whole program. The program is very traditional and structured; honestly, I'm not sure if the traditional MBA-program, which is very financially and structurally based, is going to appeal to me. It will take around 2 years to complete.

Amberton University. Master of Business Administration (Strategic Leadership) OR Master of Arts, Professional Development.

Pros: It is regionally accredited, which is nothing to be ashamed of. The bread and butter is the flexibility of both programs. I can end up with a 36-credit master's degree by taking almost exclusively courses that I really like (leadership, conflict management, communication.) I can also get up to THREE graduate certificates, as the classes for the master's programs also apply towards certificates, AND certificates can overlap classes. Furthermore, I can transfer in classes from VESi for 9-12 credits, which are extremely cheap. Speaking of cheap, the school is off-the-radar inexpensive for RA schools. Also, I can complete this degree in a year to 18 months, and within that time frame I can keep adding certificates to my resume.

Cons: Not AACSB is the biggest drawback. The lack of name recognition could really hurt in a competitive market in Silicon Valley, If I later decided to get AACSB, I would then need to start over from scratch. I'm just worried that the degree will be seen as "second-tier," whereas UMass Lowell will probably just be assumed brick-and-mortar from a reputable school. Maybe this fear is irrational, but I wonder if a resume littered with certificates is seen by employers as a resume with a lot of easy, online certificates. As much as I hate to say, perception matters more than reality in the professional world. I can say with little doubt that Amberton will improve my overall skills and make be a better professional, but UMass will make me look much better on paper and open more opportunities.


So, that is my dilemma. I still have time to make the decision, but I should make a decision soon if I want to get started on my prereqs.

I had the same concerns with the PD degree from Amberton. As far as it possibly not sounding specific enough, that's why I considered going for their Human Resource degree. However, I did not want to get pigeon-holed. Then there is the school, which is pretty much unknown. I am the type of person with more interest, than I have money to pursue them all with degrees. I could easily be a 'professional student' if my funds allowed me to be. Although, I realized that I'd rather live life and explore the things that I am interest in, rather than just acquire additional pieces of paper about those things. I want to feel it, instead of reading about it. However, I tried to come up with a compromise for myself, as you are trying to do. In deciding whether to go for that degree that will bring me the most money, versus the degree that could make me the most happiest. ALOT if not MOST of the time they are not one in the same. I worked for over 17 years in a business were I was not happy. There were times that the money made everything alright, and made everything fine on the outside. However, I was miserable on the inside. That is why I have always told my children, that they must figure out what they love to do. That thing that they would do for free, and exhaust themselves into making sure is done just right. I told them to go for that thing, THEN, figure out how to make a lot of money at doing it. It is much easier, however, to do this when you don't have any responsibilities yet, than when you are trying to start over with life on your back I tell you. My advise is, now most companies probably won't pay much attention to the name of where you received your degree. Unless it was from an ivy league school. If it is not from there, and the school is legit. Then they would just focus on the job that you would be able to do with the degree you obtained. The degree name, in some areas may need to be more specific. That of course depends on the job you are going after. If you are not going for that job that would need an MBA, I would not go for it if that is not exactly what you want to do. I too have been mesmerized by the feeling of prestige from just saying 'I have an MBA.' I actually thought about taking Andrew Jackson's EMBA, just for the name of it. Since it sounded even more prestigious, however, I was not even going to use it for any positions that would require it. I could care less about that part of business now. Well, back to you. After all of this, the whole point I'm saying is to try and do something that makes you ecstatically happy. If you are on that second career like me, with a family and endless responsibilities now. To do something ecstatically happy may be too late to do. However, do something that makes you happy, that something that is you, and that you would not dread day-in and day-out doing. No amount of money can fulfill that inner happiness, that the feeling of being yourself, and being what you are about, can bring. Life is too short, for that.

[TMW2010]

I've been pouring over master's programs for the last two weeks. I've narrowed it down to two schools which are very different. Some advice would be helpful, as right now I am very torn between the two. I am about to get my BS Liberal Studies at Excelsior, and now I'm looking to earn a postgrad degree in a business related field. I don't have a lot of prereqs for either program, although I do have some professional experience and I've decided I'd rather go this route than a humanities-based master's. I would be lying if I said I didn't want to make more money, but I'd also be lying if I said I didn't want to enjoy school. So, here are my top choices.

University of Massachusetts, Lowell. Master of Business Administration.

Pros: This school is AACSB-approved, and assuming that I can find an employer to supplement the costs, it is a good long-term investment. It is a rare find because it is very low priced for AACSB, entirely online, and only 30 credits. The prereqs are not as bad as other schools, and so far the staff has been very attentive. I can't overemphasize the AACSB accreditation and brand-name recognition.

Cons: Although a good value, it will cost around $15,0000 before textbooks for the whole program. The program is very traditional and structured; honestly, I'm not sure if the traditional MBA-program, which is very financially and structurally based, is going to appeal to me. It will take around 2 years to complete.

Amberton University. Master of Business Administration (Strategic Leadership) OR Master of Arts, Professional Development.

Pros: It is regionally accredited, which is nothing to be ashamed of. The bread and butter is the flexibility of both programs. I can end up with a 36-credit master's degree by taking almost exclusively courses that I really like (leadership, conflict management, communication.) I can also get up to THREE graduate certificates, as the classes for the master's programs also apply towards certificates, AND certificates can overlap classes. Furthermore, I can transfer in classes from VESi for 9-12 credits, which are extremely cheap. Speaking of cheap, the school is off-the-radar inexpensive for RA schools. Also, I can complete this degree in a year to 18 months, and within that time frame I can keep adding certificates to my resume.

Cons: Not AACSB is the biggest drawback. The lack of name recognition could really hurt in a competitive market in Silicon Valley, If I later decided to get AACSB, I would then need to start over from scratch. I'm just worried that the degree will be seen as "second-tier," whereas UMass Lowell will probably just be assumed brick-and-mortar from a reputable school. Maybe this fear is irrational, but I wonder if a resume littered with certificates is seen by employers as a resume with a lot of easy, online certificates. As much as I hate to say, perception matters more than reality in the professional world. I can say with little doubt that Amberton will improve my overall skills and make be a better professional, but UMass will make me look much better on paper and open more opportunities.


So, that is my dilemma. I still have time to make the decision, but I should make a decision soon if I want to get started on my prereqs.

Short and Simple - UMass - Lowell

Its got the AACSB cert, its got name recognition, and in the end, you'll likely find that its money well spent.*
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[alleycat]

I would go with UMass also. What do they want for pre requ"s? Can you transfer in any classes from another program?

[Sunshine]

I don't have any experience with business programs, but I thought I'd offer some very simple advice. Maybe thinking about these questions will help you narrow it down:

Why do you want to get your MBA/MA?
What do you want to do with it once you've got it?
Where do you want to work/what type of work do you want to do (specifically)?
Which of these programs will best help you reach your goal?

Sometimes it helps to figure out what your end goal is and work backward from there. You might find out that some of the pros or cons won't make a difference to you.

[Lindagerr]

:iagree: I think you need to look at why you are doing this and which will better help you reach your goal, but I think you also have to consider the as I call Grind factor. I would really like to take Calculus and Physics and either or both would be great to have on my trancript. The problem is I know I would not enjoy taking either and would find it a terrible grind. For that reason I have decided to leave them off my current plan. I don't want to get bogged down and lose sight of the finish line. I would rather get my degree taking courses I enjoy, later if I have time I can see if I can stick to the ones with high Grind Factors.

[daniellevine]

I had the same concerns with the PD degree from Amberton. As far as it possibly not sounding specific enough, that's why I considered going for their Human Resource degree. However, I did not want to get pigeon-holed. Then there is the school, which is pretty much unknown. I am the type of person with more interest, than I have money to pursue them all with degrees. I could easily be a 'professional student' if my funds allowed me to be. Although, I realized that I'd rather live life and explore the things that I am interest in, rather than just acquire additional pieces of paper about those things. I want to feel it, instead of reading about it. However, I tried to come up with a compromise for myself, as you are trying to do. In deciding whether to go for that degree that will bring me the most money, versus the degree that could make me the most happiest. ALOT if not MOST of the time they are not one in the same. I worked for over 17 years in a business were I was not happy. There were times that the money made everything alright, and made everything fine on the outside. However, I was miserable on the inside. That is why I have always told my children, that they must figure out what they love to do. That thing that they would do for free, and exhaust themselves into making sure is done just right. I told them to go for that thing, THEN, figure out how to make a lot of money at doing it. It is much easier, however, to do this when you don't have any responsibilities yet, than when you are trying to start over with life on your back I tell you. My advise is, now most companies probably won't pay much attention to the name of where you received your degree. Unless it was from an ivy league school. If it is not from there, and the school is legit. Then they would just focus on the job that you would be able to do with the degree you obtained. The degree name, in some areas may need to be more specific. That of course depends on the job you are going after. If you are not going for that job that would need an MBA, I would not go for it if that is not exactly what you want to do. I too have been mesmerized by the feeling of prestige from just saying 'I have an MBA.' I actually thought about taking Andrew Jackson's EMBA, just for the name of it. Since it sounded even more prestigious, however, I was not even going to use it for any positions that would require it. I could care less about that part of business now. Well, back to you. After all of this, the whole point I'm saying is to try and do something that makes you ecstatically happy. If you are on that second career like me, with a family and endless responsibilities now. To do something ecstatically happy may be too late to do. However, do something that makes you happy, that something that is you, and that you would not dread day-in and day-out doing. No amount of money can fulfill that inner happiness, that the feeling of being yourself, and being what you are about, can bring. Life is too short, for that.

Thanks for the wonderful post. This was very well thought out. I definitely think we have the same types of interests and concerns, but you clearly have more experience. I guess I will just have a lot to think about over the next couple of months. It's not like this is a bad thing... six months ago I viewed grad school as a distant goal that I may visit ten years from now. Today am very grateful just to be having this decision. I'm starting to think the best decision would be to go back to work. Sometimes when you are at a standstill, it's best to throw yourself back into life and the answer may become much clearer. Bottom line is, Amberton is a fantastic opportunity; it may very well end up being my decision. Of course, if an employer is willing to pay a LOT of tuition, AACSB would be nice. One thing that I do not have that you do have is lots of professional experience. I really don't think your school matters as much in your case, simply because if I am an employer, school recognition only becomes a factor if past work experience is not where it needs to be. I'm concerned about providing for my family (just got married a few months ago and hoping to have a child next year), but I definitely don't want to get caught up in doing something that I don't like. Why can't life just be simple?

Thanks again.

[taylor]

:iagree: This masters degree is gravy now that you've accomplished your bachelors...more of a fun decision as opposed to an absolute must. But I'll throw my vote in anyway. I like UMass Lowell for the MBA and Amberton for MA in Professional Development.

[norema]

Thanks for the wonderful post. This was very well thought out. I definitely think we have the same types of interests and concerns, but you clearly have more experience. I guess I will just have a lot to think about over the next couple of months. It's not like this is a bad thing... six months ago I viewed grad school as a distant goal that I may visit ten years from now. Today am very grateful just to be having this decision. I'm starting to think the best decision would be to go back to work. Sometimes when you are at a standstill, it's best to throw yourself back into life and the answer may become much clearer. Bottom line is, Amberton is a fantastic opportunity; it may very well end up being my decision. Of course, if an employer is willing to pay a LOT of tuition, AACSB would be nice. One thing that I do not have that you do have is lots of professional experience. I really don't think your school matters as much in your case, simply because if I am an employer, school recognition only becomes a factor if past work experience is not where it needs to be. I'm concerned about providing for my family (just got married a few months ago and hoping to have a child next year), but I definitely don't want to get caught up in doing something that I don't like. Why can't life just be simple?

Thanks again.

Even though I have work experience, it is not in the field that I want to work in now. However, me personally I NEEDED to acquire my degrees, just for me. Mainly for the satisfaction of completing them. Because they were a long time coming. Now, I don't want to overstep in my suggestion, but at least take one class at a time or something. You see, you are at the point that I wish I was back at. I too decided that I would go back to work, and take care of my family. Hoping that I could go back to work, and have someone else pay for it. That never happened. Not to say this will happen to you. However, I ended up making a good living taking care of my family in a job that I was miserable in. As most Mothers do, I lost myself in taking care of everyone else. Putting myself on the back burner, then looked up after 20 years from when I first went to college. Wondering when, how, and if I would ever finish. You know that question just about every potential employer ask... "Where do you see yourself in five years? Well, for those 20 years I would say finish my degree. Well, I don't have to say that anymore. Anyway, sorry I get a little long-winded. However, excuse me for speaking in regards to your family, income, or just your life as a whole. You know, who am I, right? Just take it from someone who made the mistake. DO NOT put yourself at the bottom of the list. It will be hard to uphold your own desires while taking care of everyone and everything else in your life. But you do not want to look in the mirror one day, 20 years later saying 'but what about me.'

[daniellevine]

Even though I have work experience, it is not in the field that I want to work in now. However, me personally I NEEDED to acquire my degrees, just for me. Mainly for the satisfaction of completing them. Because they were a long time coming. Now, I don't want to overstep in my suggestion, but at least take one class at a time or something. You see, you are at the point that I wish I was back at. I too decided that I would go back to work, and take care of my family. Hoping that I could go back to work, and have someone else pay for it. That never happened. Not to say this will happen to you. However, I ended up making a good living taking care of my family in a job that I was miserable in. As most Mothers do, I lost myself in taking care of everyone else. Putting myself on the back burner, then looked up after 20 years from when I first went to college. Wondering when, how, and if I would ever finish. You know that question just about every potential employer ask... "Where do you see yourself in five years? Well, for those 20 years I would say finish my degree. Well, I don't have to say that anymore. Anyway, sorry I get a little long-winded. However, excuse me for speaking in regards to your family, income, or just your life as a whole. You know, who am I, right? Just take it from someone who made the mistake. DO NOT put yourself at the bottom of the list. It will be hard to uphold your own desires while taking care of everyone and everything else in your life. But you do not want to look in the mirror one day, 20 years later saying 'but what about me.'

Thanks a lot for the wisdom. You are really an inspirational figure for me, to complete both degrees so fast. I'm very happy for that you completed them, and you should be proud of yourself. My mother has recently told me the same thing... which is that I need to ride this momentum and not put it aside. Right now I am completely engaged in earning credits, and that's after almost 10 years of saying "I really need to finish my degree." So, I can relate to you on that level. I just read a great article about the value of an MBA/ school, etc. Although this is just from a website Q+A, it's probably given me more insight about the value of learning than any of the other articles I've read combined.

How Important is the MBA in Getting Top Management Jobs?

The last statement is interesting, especially coming from a recruitment firm that works with some of the biggest companies in the world:

"Our recommendation to people interested in pursuing advanced studies is simple: study what you do well in and do the best you can, alongside the best students and professors possible. In our experience, the people who really do the best in their fields and who are given top managerial jobs, regardless of what schools they attended, are those who most enjoy their work. Their enthusiasm and creativity spurs them toward greatness and naturally makes them leaders...If you are in business and people are telling you that the path to management is only with an MBA, don't listen to them, particularly if you hate statistics, accounting or management theory. An MBA alone does not guarantee or teach anyone to be a good manager."