Figuring out What I Have and What I am Missing for BACS & BS-CIS Double Degree

[nicecoolego]

I was originally working on a Pierpont -> Umpi BAS IT minor plan, but I found out I missed the summer graduation deadline for Pierpont and I would need to wait until December to graduate. This has derailed my plans a bit since I am trying to Graduate as soon as I can (no rushing for anything specific but I don't want to waste 6 months I want to be done with the Bachelors by the end of the year). As such I was thinking of jumping ship to TESU's BACS & BS CIS double degree plan, but in order to make an informed decision on whether or not that's a good idea I need to know what from the things I have already done would transfer over. I tried to research it on the wiki but somethings were hard to find out where the equivalencies fit in the course requirements. Therefore, here is what I have so far:

AP (? means I am not sure if I took it since the scores are already archived):

• Calculus AB
  
• Biology
  
• CS Principles ?
  
• Physics 1
  
• Physics 2
  
• Eng ?
  
• Spanish
  
• World History
  
• US History
  

ACE:

• TEEX Cyber 101
  
• TEEX Cyber 201
  
• TEEX Cyber 301
  

• Google IT Cert
  
• Google Data Analytics Cert
  
• Google UX Design Cert
  

• Sophia:
  

• Project Management
  
• Visual Communication
  
• Workplace Communication
  
• Ancient Greek Philosophers
  
• Art History 1
  
• Intro to IT
  
• Python
  
• Web Development
  
• College Readiness
  
• Sociology
  

RA:

• ASU CIS-194 1 credit
  

As such I would be incredibly thankful for any help or resources in knowing what requirements I have already met and which ones I still need. Thank you for reading!

[CenterSquarEd]

Are you sure you missed the Pierpont deadline? Don’t go by the college website, the BOG program has had their own later deadline in the recent past.

[nicecoolego]

Are you sure you missed the Pierpont deadline? Don’t go by the college website, the BOG program has had their own later deadline in the recent past.

I emailed Nancy Parks about it and that's what she told me. At the moment I emailed her back saying if there was any way I can expedite the graduation process or at least use the transcript and have some way of proving that I'm pending to graduate to start my term at UMPI, but I'm not very hopeful. Hence why I started researching the TESU double degree option.

[bjcheung77]

Are you sure you missed the Pierpont deadline? Don’t go by the college website, the BOG program has had their own later deadline in the recent past.

I emailed Nancy Parks about it and that's what she told me. At the moment I emailed her back saying if there was any way I can expedite the graduation process or at least use the transcript and have some way of proving that I'm pending to graduate to start my term at UMPI, but I'm not very hopeful. Hence why I started researching the TESU double degree option.

What did UMPI say? Did you apply and send everything to them? It's really easy, since you're going for the BAS with a minor of your choice...

[nicecoolego]

Are you sure you missed the Pierpont deadline? Don’t go by the college website, the BOG program has had their own later deadline in the recent past.

I emailed Nancy Parks about it and that's what she told me. At the moment I emailed her back saying if there was any way I can expedite the graduation process or at least use the transcript and have some way of proving that I'm pending to graduate to start my term at UMPI, but I'm not very hopeful. Hence why I started researching the TESU double degree option.

What did UMPI say? Did you apply and send everything to them? It's really easy, since you're going for the BAS with a minor of your choice...

I haven't really thought about talking to UMPI yet since everywhere I looked you needed to have a associates in order to be eligible for the bas and I didn't find any precedent of people going from one to the other without officially graduating. Most of the threads I found were of people talking about the waiting game. But that's a good idea I'll try to contact Umpi as well and see what they can do for me. Regardless I'd still want to know about how well my current credits fit into the course requirements for the bacs in tesu, just in case pierpont or umpi can't do anything about the situation.

[bjcheung77]

Email Nancy as the last step! I suggest this path - Pierpont BOG > UMPI BAS > UMPI MAOL... You can quickly apply to both Pierpont and UMPI and send the transcripts in while you complete the remaining credits needed for UMPI BLS (you can change to BAS after conferral of Pierpont BOG AAS).

Heck, if you wanted an additional cheapies/freebies, you can get the Coursera, TEEX, classes that grant ACE credit and also complete a Cert. You can add an addition UMPI AALS into your degree plan as a secondary program and 'forget it' as all the credits you take for the BAS/BLS will go towards that degree.

Pierpont BOG AAS, 1 RA, 60+ Alternative Credits, transfer credits into degree
1) Sophia.org - 15 Gen Ed, 15 credits (Computer/IT or another emphasis)
2) ASU 1 RA + Coursera/Google/TEEX - 40+ ACE credits, 60+ total
3) Apply Pierpont & Transfer credits (skip other CC, RA credits for now)

**Apply to UMPI before Pierpont BOG AAS confers, you'll know where your credits go!**

UMPI BAS 120 credits - Reuse 60+ from Pierpont BOG AAS
1) When waiting for Pierpont conferral, Apply to UMPI BLS, send ASU, ACE, all other transcripts
2) UMPI change to BAS when accepted, add AALS freebie and forget it
3) Complete remaining residency credits (10 UMPI classes for 30 credits)

[allvia]

I know you're thinking you can just graduate by end of year (Dec) from TESU, but you would need to apply for gradation by Oct 1st and be done with everything (including the capstone by Nov 1st). TESU's capstones are 12 weeks, so you'd have to be enrolled for the August term (at the latest), and you cannot enroll in the TESU Capstone until you have over 100 credits of the degree completed (and transferred in). Since you're looking at the two degree plan (and you have no existing RA credits - correction 1 RA), that is two capstones so you're looking at at least 120 credits before starting them. I'm not saying it would be impossible, but very unlikely. I don't say this to discourage you from pursuing the TESU degree(s) option, just realize that your end of year completion by going with TESU (vs Pierpont -> UMPI BAS in the Spring '25) probably isn't realistic.  WGU might be an option for a 2024 IT/CS related bachelor -- if you're already familiar with the subject material -- as they graduate monthly; once you've completed the degree requirements you're done. However, with WGU you must transfer in all outside credits before you enroll/start with them.

[nicecoolego]

I know you're thinking you can just graduate by end of year (Dec) from TESU, but you would need to apply for gradation by Oct 1st and be done with everything (including the capstone by Nov 1st). TESU's capstones are 12 weeks, so you'd have to be enrolled for the August term (at the latest), and you cannot enroll in the TESU Capstone until you have over 100 credits of the degree completed (and transferred in). Since you're looking at the two degree plan (and you have no existing RA credits - correction 1 RA), that is two capstones so you're looking at at least 120 credits before starting them. I'm not saying it would be impossible, but very unlikely. I don't say this to discourage you from pursuing the TESU degree(s) option, just realize that your end of year completion by going with TESU (vs Pierpont -> UMPI BAS in the Spring '25) probably isn't realistic.  WGU might be an option for a 2024 IT/CS related bachelor -- if you're already familiar with the subject material -- as they graduate monthly; once you've completed the degree requirements you're done. However, with WGU you must transfer in all outside credits before you enroll/start with them.

Thanks for letting me know this is why I love this forum, I wouldn't have known about the time tables for TESU otherwise. Given this I don't think it's realistic to pursue the TESU idea, given the fact I already have the 90 credits ready to transfer in to UMPI for the BAS.

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Email Nancy as the last step!  I suggest this path - Pierpont BOG > UMPI BAS > UMPI MAOL... You can quickly apply to both Pierpont and UMPI and send the transcripts in while you complete the remaining credits needed for UMPI BLS (you can change to BAS after conferral of Pierpont BOG AAS).

Heck, if you wanted an additional cheapies/freebies, you can get the Coursera, TEEX, classes that grant ACE credit and also complete a Cert. You can add an addition UMPI AALS into your degree plan as a secondary program and 'forget it' as all the credits you take for the BAS/BLS will go towards that degree.

Pierpont BOG AAS, 1 RA, 60+ Alternative Credits, transfer credits into degree
1) Sophia.org - 15 Gen Ed, 15 credits (Computer/IT or another emphasis)
2) ASU 1 RA + Coursera/Google/TEEX - 40+ ACE credits, 60+ total
3) Apply Pierpont & Transfer credits (skip other CC, RA credits for now)

**Apply to UMPI before Pierpont BOG AAS confers, you'll know where your credits go!**

UMPI BAS 120 credits - Reuse 60+ from Pierpont BOG AAS
1) When waiting for Pierpont conferral, Apply to UMPI BLS, send ASU, ACE, all other transcripts
2) UMPI change to BAS when accepted, add AALS freebie and forget it
3) Complete remaining residency credits (10 UMPI classes for 30 credits)

Interesting I didn't know about the MAOL option I didn't find it on the wiki but I know that's mostly for bachelors. Regarding credits, as far as I am aware I have completed all the necessary ace credits to boost my chances of being accepted into the BAS as well as all the possible credits I can transfer in to fulfill as many course requirements as possible. All that I have left for the BAS with a minor in information systems at least is to do the residency credits. The best would be if I could enroll in UMPI now to finish those classes and not waste time. Once I finish those classes and the AAS is conferred to transfer to the BAS program and apply for graduation.

With that being said what would you recommend I do now? Should I apply to UMPI Bas with the pierpont transcript and proof of pending graduation right away or apply to the BLS and transfer when the AAS is conferred? Additionally, where can I find more information about the MAOL degree and what I can do with it?

[bjcheung77]

In short, keep accumulating ACE credits, if you have a Sophia.org membership going, then continue on with the credits until you hit at least a total of 90+ credits using Coursera, Sophia.org, TEEX, etc, you can also apply to UMPI as per my instructions above. Again: **Apply to UMPI before Pierpont BOG AAS confers, you'll know where your credits go!** UMPI WIKI has the 4 classes mentioned: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Un...esque_Isle