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Degree planning help - UMPI BBA vs PUG BSBA
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(03-28-2024, 08:49 AM)ss20ts Wrote:
(03-28-2024, 07:26 AM)crowbird Wrote: Hey also does name recognition should be something to be takes into consideration given that tesu is more well known and recognized, i am assuming tesu is more wwll known then umpi.

No one where I live has heard of TESU and I live in New York shares a border with New Jersey. Even people who haven't heard of UMPI can figure out that it's part of the University of Maine system which is a state university system. TESU's name doesn't say it's part of a state university system the same way. This is similar to how people ask if Buffalo State is a SUNY school. SUNY is New York's state university system.It is a SUNY school, but people still question if it is. It's also not the same thing as University of Buffalo which is another SUNY school. Fun with names!
I know its probably out of my budget but how much transfer credit can be transferred to ASU, and how much would the low end price tag be, i heard they offer much better quality programs and i am guessing they have more name recognition, either way its out my budget but i want to at least know
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(03-28-2024, 09:30 AM)crowbird Wrote: I know its probably out of my budget but how much transfer credit can be transferred to ASU, and how much would the low end price tag be, i heard they offer much better quality programs and i am guessing they have more name recognition, either way its out my budget but i want to at least know

You'll have to look on the ASU website to see their transfer credit policies and costs. We don't talk about their degrees much at all on here because they're not as ACE credit transfer friendly or as inexpensive as UMPI, TESU, WGU, and EU.
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#23
IIRC, ASU does theoretically allow you to transfer in up to 75% of a degree. But I believe that only counts other college/university classes and some CLEP. If you really need a specific Engineering degree or an Archaeology degree or something like that, the prices aren't terrible. But they're at least 2-3x what TESU costs and potentially 5-10x the cost of a quickly-completed UMPI degree.
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(03-28-2024, 10:37 AM)rachel83az Wrote: IIRC, ASU does theoretically allow you to transfer in up to 75% of a degree. But I believe that only counts other college/university classes and some CLEP. If you really need a specific Engineering degree or an Archaeology degree or something like that, the prices aren't terrible. But they're at least 2-3x what TESU costs and potentially 5-10x the cost of a quickly-completed UMPI degree.
Is it possible to get AALS at umpi while i am doing my BBA like another mod mentioned before? If so how much transfer credit i can push in the AALS.
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(03-28-2024, 11:44 AM)crowbird Wrote:
(03-28-2024, 10:37 AM)rachel83az Wrote: IIRC, ASU does theoretically allow you to transfer in up to 75% of a degree. But I believe that only counts other college/university classes and some CLEP. If you really need a specific Engineering degree or an Archaeology degree or something like that, the prices aren't terrible. But they're at least 2-3x what TESU costs and potentially 5-10x the cost of a quickly-completed UMPI degree.
Is it possible to get AALS at umpi while i am doing my BBA like another mod mentioned before? If so how much transfer credit i can push in the AALS.

45 out of 60 credits can be transferred. 5 classes/15 credits must be done via UMPI.
It basically gets filled as you do your Bachelor's.
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(03-28-2024, 11:51 AM)jg_nuy Wrote:
(03-28-2024, 11:44 AM)crowbird Wrote:
(03-28-2024, 10:37 AM)rachel83az Wrote: IIRC, ASU does theoretically allow you to transfer in up to 75% of a degree. But I believe that only counts other college/university classes and some CLEP. If you really need a specific Engineering degree or an Archaeology degree or something like that, the prices aren't terrible. But they're at least 2-3x what TESU costs and potentially 5-10x the cost of a quickly-completed UMPI degree.
Is it possible to get AALS at umpi while i am doing my BBA like another mod mentioned before? If so how much transfer credit i can push in the AALS.

45 out of 60 credits can be transferred. 5 classes/15 credits must be done via UMPI.
It basically gets filled as you do your Bachelor's.
So i just to need to 5 classes and get it alongside my BBA? And it would most likely be a general concentration AALS if i transfer 45 credits right?
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#27
Skip ASU... TESU/UMPI are both public/state institutions, these are ones I recommend over PUG as PUG is private, non profit, and exclusively online. Having said that, if you're going after a Masters later, UMPI, PUG, etc would be a great option. Going the UMPI BABA PM & IS route, or M&L route, your AALS is already done (you can add it as a second program and forget it) as the 30 credits you take for residency requirements fulfills the 15 credits needed for the AALS. Pretend it'll take you 2 sessions to complete 30 credits at UMPI, that'll cost $3K, 3 sessions would be $4500.

TESU is the big kicker here, for additional associates, certificates, you can do the flat rate tuition for 15 credits at $4299, app fee $50, grad fee $298 = $4647. Obviously for both, you'll have to transfer in the max credits using alternative credits, TESU allows more for transfer... I've been recommending many people who have the energy, money, time (like you do) to complete the 'best bang for the buck' by following steps I've mentioned on the board in my "Beginner's Guide" sticky. I'll link you to the options to complete these 15 credits and the transfer credit threads.

Courses vs Residency Waiver #1: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ng-Courses
16 Credits vs Residency Waiver #2: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Waiver-Fee
ACTFL/Foreign Credits: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...r-to-Big-3
Transfer Policy: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Explained

TESU Associates Freebies: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans
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(03-28-2024, 12:33 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Skip ASU... TESU/UMPI are both public/state institutions, these are ones I recommend over PUG as PUG is private, non profit, and exclusively online.  Having said that, if you're going after a Masters later, UMPI, PUG, etc would be a great option.  Going the UMPI BABA PM & IS route, or M&L route, your AALS is already done (you can add it as a second program and forget it) as the 30 credits you take for residency requirements fulfills the 15 credits needed for the AALS.  Pretend it'll take you 2 sessions to complete 30 credits at UMPI, that'll cost $3K, 3 sessions would be $4500.

TESU is the big kicker here, for additional associates, certificates, you can do the flat rate tuition for 15 credits at $4299, app fee $50, grad fee $298 = $4647.  Obviously for both, you'll have to transfer in the max credits using alternative credits, TESU allows more for transfer... I've been recommending many people who have the energy, money, time (like you do) to complete the 'best bang for the buck' by following steps I've mentioned on the board in my "Beginner's Guide" sticky.  I'll link you to the options to complete these 15 credits and the transfer credit threads.

Courses vs Residency Waiver #1: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ng-Courses
16 Credits vs Residency Waiver #2: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Waiver-Fee
ACTFL/Foreign Credits: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...r-to-Big-3
Transfer Policy: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Explained

TESU Associates Freebies: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans
TESU Certs Add-on Freebies: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...cate_Plans
Thanks, you mentioned earlier something about dual or double degree from tesu can you elaborate on that?

Also is it reasonable if i want to clear those UMPI AALS credits by taking additional courses(i am really interested in those creative writing courses) so it would either be my main BBA 30 credits plus additional 30 credits for the AALS in creative writing concentration or just +15 credits and ill get the general concentration (but ill still be able to get those 15 credits in creative writing courses) they also mention that creative writing courses can be taken twice for credit. All this assume a 2 or 3 terms time frame
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#29
(03-28-2024, 12:33 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: ...these are ones I recommend over PUG as PUG is private, non profit, and exclusively online. 
Just to clarify: Although PUG's relationship with Kaplan is odd and non-ideal, like all the universities in the Purdue system, PUG is definitely a public institution. This is why there's such heavy criticism of the Purdue/Kaplan agreement in some quarters: because there's Indiana taxpayer money on the line.
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crowbird Wrote:Thanks, you mentioned earlier something about dual or double degree from tesu can you elaborate on that?

Also is it reasonable if i want to clear those UMPI AALS credits by taking additional courses(i am really interested in those creative writing courses) so it would either be my main BBA 30 credits plus additional 30 credits for the AALS in creative writing concentration or just +15 credits and ill get the general concentration (but ill still be able to get those 15 credits in creative writing courses) they also mention that creative writing courses can be taken twice for credit. All this assume a 2 or 3 terms time frame

In regards to TESU, what's missing that you need more clarification? My links explained it multiple times... I've never seen anyone do the AALS by taking any classes at all, my recommendation was always to get the AALS on route to the Bachelors without any extra classes.
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