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(07-15-2023, 10:07 AM)GameSlinger Wrote: Is there an option that covers the Organizational Behavior requirement?
Yup, as per my Study.com link above:
Business 307: Leadership & Organizational Behavior
(Organizational Behavior (Social Sciences)) 3 upper
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With your experience, is there a reason you didn't choose the UMPI BABA/Supply Chain degree instead of EU's BPS? Or even UMPI's BLS/Management degree? It's definitely cheaper than EU.
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(07-16-2023, 03:39 PM)dfrecore Wrote: With your experience, is there a reason you didn't choose the UMPI BABA/Supply Chain degree instead of EU's BPS? Or even UMPI's BLS/Management degree? It's definitely cheaper than EU.
I started with my local community college, and then Excelsior when I found out about them and the fact that they had the AAS electronics degree and I was only a handful of classes short after all my military and community college transfers. I switched to the bachelors of business degree after completing my local community colleges AAS in business management. I spent 6 years total in a factory as a laborer, 2 before and 4 after I was in the military as an Electronics Tech. My 20 years in transportation was primarily as a long haul trucker and then trainer for the last 5 years. I switched to the Operations Manager role for a large manufacturer after receiving my AAS in Business, then after 1 year experience, I switched to an Aerospace electronics manufacturing company to combine my 2 AAS degrees as a Production Manager.
I am not against looking into other schools, and I have been creating a list of which schools might be better. I didn't realize there are this many options available to me to get this accomplished otherwise I would be done already. I did most of my CLEP and DSST exams while I was driving by listening to lectures while I was driving 10+ hours a day. After a week or two of listening to the lectures I would go test out of that subject. My best semester was 39 credits. 12 at community college, 6 through EU, and 21 CLEP.
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Excelsior - BPS Business and Management
Study.com - Business 307, Sociology 305, Psychology 315
ASU - Algebra, PreCalc, Calculus
Completed:
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Kirkwood - AAS Business Administration, Certificate of Human Resources 3.8 GPA
Excelsior - AAS Applied Technologies Electronics 4.0 GPA
TADA - Google Project Management, Google Digital Marketing & E-Commerce
Luna - Bio2 Lab
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TECEP: 9 Credits
Man-3730, OPM-3010, Bus-3110
Study.com: 6 Credits
Philosophy 301
Lawshelf: 15 Credits
BUS-201, BUS-301, BUS-302, GOV-202, EMP-301
CLEP: 48 Credits
College Math, Financial Accounting, Principles of Micro & Macroeconomics, Intro Sociology, Intro Psychology, Analyze and Interpreting Literature, Intro Business Law, Principles of Marketing, Biology, US History 1 & 2, Humanities
DSST: 9 Credits
Principles of Public Speaking, Ethics in America, Principles of Supervision
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Technically, if you don't care for GPA, you can take the Capstone at Excelsior and transfer the rest in. You already have the cornerstone/info lit requirement filled. Going the UMPI route would be the same cost if you finish in 1 session, it becomes more when you have to do two sessions. Depends on the student, decide when you know your various variables and the remainder of the requirements, also revisit the cost as well.
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Most people here report very high grades at UMPI, so taking 30cr there will certainly raise your GPA. I think it's a better option than EU by far, and I think there are better options for degrees as well.
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I wanted to add more detail to this since I downloaded a copy of my JST which lists all the courses and the ACE recommendations for them.
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In Progress:
Excelsior - BPS Business and Management
Study.com - Business 307, Sociology 305, Psychology 315
ASU - Algebra, PreCalc, Calculus
Completed:
Universidad Isabel I - MBA/Master Bus & Corp Comm
Kirkwood - AAS Business Administration, Certificate of Human Resources 3.8 GPA
Excelsior - AAS Applied Technologies Electronics 4.0 GPA
TADA - Google Project Management, Google Digital Marketing & E-Commerce
Luna - Bio2 Lab
CSM Learn
US Navy (Electronics Tech 3rd Class) - NER-ET-004, NV-2202-0165 V02, NV-1715-1788 V01, NV-1715-1796 V01, NV-1715-1585 V01, NV-1715-1336 V02
TECEP: 9 Credits
Man-3730, OPM-3010, Bus-3110
Study.com: 6 Credits
Philosophy 301
Lawshelf: 15 Credits
BUS-201, BUS-301, BUS-302, GOV-202, EMP-301
CLEP: 48 Credits
College Math, Financial Accounting, Principles of Micro & Macroeconomics, Intro Sociology, Intro Psychology, Analyze and Interpreting Literature, Intro Business Law, Principles of Marketing, Biology, US History 1 & 2, Humanities
DSST: 9 Credits
Principles of Public Speaking, Ethics in America, Principles of Supervision
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08-06-2023, 02:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2023, 02:47 PM by dfrecore.)
So you have 3 choices that I can see:
EU's BPS in Management:
3 UL A&S courses (Coopersmith or SDC)
BUS 302: Foundations of Leadership (SDC)
Finance 301: Corporate Finance (SDC-UL)
BUS 307: Leadership and Organizational Behavior (SDC-UL)
Project Management (must be taken somewhere other than Sophia or SDC) - UL
Capstone (EU-UL)
4 UL Business courses (SDC-UL)
Since you can't bring in PM from SDC or Sophia, that means you're probably stuck taking it at EU, putting your total costs just for tuition/fees at $4k. Add in the remaining costs to do your 10 courses at SDC (or Coopersmith which would be more) and you're looking at well over $5k.
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UMPI's BLS in Management or Project Management
Sophia
Physical Science - EnvSci or Chem
Foreign Language - Spanish or French
Civics - American Government
Business Communication
UMPI
Hands-on Art (UMPI)
5 remaining courses in the minor
4 courses in anything (this is where the 2nd minor in PM comes in)
1mo at Sophia plus 2 terms at UMPI would put your costs at around $3100. I think you'd be done faster and more cheaply at UMPI.
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If you wanted to do the BABA/Supply Chain instead (which I think is a better degree):
Sophia
Physical Science - EnvSci or Chem
Foreign Language - Spanish or French
Civics - American Government
Business Communication
Study.com
BUS 310: Advanced Business Ethics
ACC 301: Applied Managerial Accounting
BUS 303: Management Information Systems
BUS 304: Leading Organizational Change
BUS 312: Advanced Operations Management
UMPI
Hands-on Art (UMPI)
11 courses in the major & concentration
1mo at Sophia + 2-3 months of SDC + 2 terms at UMPI would put your costs at around $3600. This one might be more bang for your buck than either EU or the BLS at UMPI. It's what I would recommend since the additional cost is minimal.
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COURSES: TESU Capstone Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats Ed4Credit Acct 2 PF Fin Mgmt ALEKS Int & Coll Alg Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics Kaplan PLA
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Wanted to give an update on my current status. I buckled down the last week and a half and knocked a bunch of tests out and it seems that my initial calculations were off a bit. In the list below, I have completed all the items other than the EC classes (to raise my GPA back up) and the Study classes. Should be able to knock the Study ones out pretty quick.
Excelsior BPS Management
Core/Professional Courses (15 UL Needed)
- Capstone 3UL (EC Spring 1)
- Business Leadership Core 3UL (EC BUS-452 Fall 1)
- Principles of Finance 3UL (EC BUS-350 Fall 2)
- Organizational Behavior 0 Credit see A&S below (Study BUS-307)
- Google Project Management 3UL (Coursera - Approved by advisor as Agile PM CORE)
- Leading Organizational Change or Business Information Systems 3UL (Study BUS-304 or BUS-303)
Arts and Science Credits (9 UL Needed)
- Organizational Behavior 3 UL (Study BUS-307)
- Securities Regulation 3UL (Lawshelf BUS-301)
- Stocks and Stock Transfers 3UL (Lawshelf BUS-302)
Other Credits (13 Needed w/ 6 UL)
- Protections for Employees 3 UL (Lawshelf EMP-301)
- Mergers and Acquisitions 3 LL (Lawshelf BUS-201)
- Basics of Environmental Law 3 LL (Lawshelf GOV-202)
- Google Project Management 3 LL (Coursera)
- Leadership Communications 3 UL (Study BUS-305)
If you notice, I listed BUS-307 Organizational Behavior from Study twice. Once in the CORE and once in the A&S section, but only put credit for the A&S one. According to my MAP planning tool, this is how it enters the program and if you look at the images for my MAP, there is no credit requirement in my CORE for that course, it is just a requirement to have it. Also, I am not sure how the Study BUS-304 transfers into EC so wasn't sure if I could have that and the EC BUS-452.
In Progress:
Excelsior - BPS Business and Management
Study.com - Business 307, Sociology 305, Psychology 315
ASU - Algebra, PreCalc, Calculus
Completed:
Universidad Isabel I - MBA/Master Bus & Corp Comm
Kirkwood - AAS Business Administration, Certificate of Human Resources 3.8 GPA
Excelsior - AAS Applied Technologies Electronics 4.0 GPA
TADA - Google Project Management, Google Digital Marketing & E-Commerce
Luna - Bio2 Lab
CSM Learn
US Navy (Electronics Tech 3rd Class) - NER-ET-004, NV-2202-0165 V02, NV-1715-1788 V01, NV-1715-1796 V01, NV-1715-1585 V01, NV-1715-1336 V02
TECEP: 9 Credits
Man-3730, OPM-3010, Bus-3110
Study.com: 6 Credits
Philosophy 301
Lawshelf: 15 Credits
BUS-201, BUS-301, BUS-302, GOV-202, EMP-301
CLEP: 48 Credits
College Math, Financial Accounting, Principles of Micro & Macroeconomics, Intro Sociology, Intro Psychology, Analyze and Interpreting Literature, Intro Business Law, Principles of Marketing, Biology, US History 1 & 2, Humanities
DSST: 9 Credits
Principles of Public Speaking, Ethics in America, Principles of Supervision
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