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11-05-2021, 09:09 PM
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(11-05-2021, 10:58 AM)learning_spree Wrote: This is no longer possible as they reduced no. of credits for AWS Certified Solutions Architect—Professional to 12. So, the only attraction point of PUG is now gone.
Forum post by another member regarding this https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...last-month
So far the IT degree plan isn't affected, so that is a good option for people wanting to do Purdue.
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/PU...egree_Plan
You can always get the Cloud certs later on if you need them for your career.
The AWS Certified SysOps cert + AWS Certified DevOps Engineer—Professional combo will get you close to all you need for the cloud degree.
The AWS Certified SysOps is what the WGU students do and is still somewhat entry-level. The AWS Certified DevOps Engineer—Professional is a pretty advanced cert that may take a long time to do.
I always say get your degree as fast as possible because these schools love to play games and change the rules without notice.
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(11-05-2021, 09:09 PM)LevelUP Wrote: (11-05-2021, 10:58 AM)learning_spree Wrote: This is no longer possible as they reduced no. of credits for AWS Certified Solutions Architect—Professional to 12. So, the only attraction point of PUG is now gone.
Forum post by another member regarding this https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...last-month
I always say get your degree as fast as possible because these schools love to play games and change the rules without notice.
Changing degree requirements is not playing games - they are continuously updating degrees at all schools.
But it always makes sense to apply and send in credits once you've made a decision, because it can easily change. So locking in your catalog as quickly as possible is a MUST. Then, once you get all of your credits onto your eval, you should be good to go.
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(11-06-2021, 05:17 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Changing degree requirements is not playing games - they are continuously updating degrees at all schools.
But it always makes sense to apply and send in credits once you've made a decision, because it can easily change. So locking in your catalog as quickly as possible is a MUST. Then, once you get all of your credits onto your eval, you should be good to go.
Some of the changes are due to accreditation. They have to follow those regs which can change.
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(11-06-2021, 05:17 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Changing degree requirements is not playing games - they are continuously updating degrees at all schools.
But it always makes sense to apply and send in credits once you've made a decision, because it can easily change. So locking in your catalog as quickly as possible is a MUST. Then, once you get all of your credits onto your eval, you should be good to go.
Yes, I understand changes are made in schools, and accreditors can change requirements, but students pay a steep cost when rules are changed.
When I say "steep" cost, I mean is these rule changes, while they may seem innocent enough, end up costing students 100's hour's worth of work.
If you live in a country where you make $1 or less an hour, or a kid living in your mom's basement, maybe time means nothing to you. But in the real world, time is worth thousands of dollars.
That's why I believe college is mostly a game and a little about actual education. It's a game to get your education in the least amount of time, paying the least amount of money. Colleges love to put in rock blocks to extend your time in college and make you spend more money by constantly adding additional requirements.
There is no set of standards and no set grace period. One day the rule is to drive on the right side of the road and the next day these people can say now we all have to drive backward on the left side of the road
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(11-06-2021, 10:28 PM)LevelUP Wrote: (11-06-2021, 05:17 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Changing degree requirements is not playing games - they are continuously updating degrees at all schools.
But it always makes sense to apply and send in credits once you've made a decision, because it can easily change. So locking in your catalog as quickly as possible is a MUST. Then, once you get all of your credits onto your eval, you should be good to go.
Yes, I understand changes are made in schools, and accreditors can change requirements, but students pay a steep cost when rules are changed.
When I say "steep" cost, I mean is these rule changes, while they may seem innocent enough, end up costing students 100's hour's worth of work.
If you live in a country where you make $1 or less an hour, or a kid living in your mom's basement, maybe time means nothing to you. But in the real world, time is worth thousands of dollars.
That's why I believe college is mostly a game and a little about actual education. It's a game to get your education in the least amount of time, paying the least amount of money. Colleges love to put in rock blocks to extend your time in college and make you spend more money by constantly adding additional requirements.
There is no set of standards and no set grace period. One day the rule is to drive on the right side of the road and the next day these people can say now we all have to drive backward on the left side of the road
Colleges all have a way to lock in your catalog so that additional requirements are not added once you're enrolled. The key is that you have to enroll. At the Big 3 (or Purdue or whatever), people are trying to get credits prior to enrolling and then complain when things change. The ONLY way to make sure that changes don't affect you are to enroll, and send in your credits.
If you don't do that, then you can't complain that they changed the rules. You set yourself up for it. Lock in your catalog so they can't change the rules (although they can change how they bring credits in for the future, and they can change prices).
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11-07-2021, 12:11 PM
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I agree that enrolling will help keep changes from affecting you.
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(11-07-2021, 12:11 PM)LevelUP Wrote: (11-07-2021, 11:25 AM)dfrecore Wrote: Colleges all have a way to lock in your catalog so that additional requirements are not added once you're enrolled. The key is that you have to enroll. At the Big 3 (or Purdue or whatever), people are trying to get credits prior to enrolling and then complain when things change. The ONLY way to make sure that changes don't affect you are to enroll, and send in your credits.
If you don't do that, then you can't complain that they changed the rules. You set yourself up for it. Lock in your catalog so they can't change the rules (although they can change how they bring credits in for the future, and they can change prices).
That's not true.
There is no way to completely prevent changes from affecting you. You have been here long enough you should know better.
There is a 100% way to do so - enroll, lock in your catalog, and bring in all of your credits. Once you lock in your catalog, they cannot make changes to the degree plan (can't add courses, can't change courses), and once you have courses brought in and put on your eval, they can't change those either. So locking in the catalog is the #1 thing you can do to make sure you don't have surprises in the future. This is why many colleges have a time limit on how long you can take to get your degree - because they want flexibility on what they can do to a degree in the future, so having people with old catalogs locked in limits them. It's also why you'll see things like "if you enrolled prior to 8/1/2017, use this chart to determine which GE's you need; if you enrolled after 8/1/17, use this chart." That enrollment date determines EVERYTHING.
With the Big 3 and Purdue, WGU, etc., bringing in those credits and getting them into an eval makes sure that whatever they decide in the future about your credits, those ones you have are locked in. Obviously if you bring in an IT cert, and it expires before you finish your degree, then that's an issue (one that you probably could have prevented BTW). But in general, most credits don't expire, so getting them into your degree plan locks them in, and the school won't go back and take them away if they change how something is brought in IN THE FUTURE. And example of this: TESU changed the way they brought in credits from CC's at some point; they used to bring some in as UL, then changed it to say that NO CC credit would be brought in as UL. I had some CC credits that they brought in as UL on my eval, and they did not change MY credits. It would only have applied to things I brought in later. It also meant that anyone who hadn't already applied and enrolled in the school wouldn't get those LL credits applied as UL, even if they'd done the exact same courses that I did.
And yes, I've been around longer than you (about 5+ years and 12,000+ posts more than you), so I do have a pretty good idea how this works.
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Have any of you guys taken College Composition I & II at Purdue Global? I wonder if it's easier than Sophia...
Seems like an Associate's in IT would be very easy for me - I'd get ~15(?) credits for AWS Cloud Practitioner (already have that cert) and 39 credits for W3S PHP cert (don't have it but would be super easy).
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I think they changed the AWS cert so it's no longer worth as much?
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(12-22-2021, 06:58 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I think they changed the AWS cert so it's no longer worth as much?
Yeah, they reduced credits for Solutions Architect. I've got the Cloud Practitioner one:
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