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[rachel83az]

AOS Electives:
History:
History 306: The American Civil War Era @ SDC - $100
HI304: Civil War Era (RA credit) @ Sterling College - $435

I would be concerned about these duplicating, unless you know that TESU brings them in as different course codes?

You're right! Oops. 

In that case, replace the Sterling College course with one of the following:
HI322: Kansas History and Government (RA credit) @ Sterling College - $435
HIST 3383 Arkansas and the Southwest @ University of Arkansas Self-Paced - $495
HIST 4563 The Old South, 1607-1865 @ University of Arkansas Self-Paced - $495
HIS 317L - Women in United States History @ University of Texas Extension - $895

Diné College and College of DuPage also have some interesting history courses but they are, unfortunately, all LL courses. 

[dfrecore]

TESU allows you to transfer in literally everything except the capstone & cornerstone. While there are some core requirements that need to be met, you can still tailor the degree to your liking. The 90 credit limit on non-RA credit doesn't mean that the degree will cost that much either.

EC, on the other hand requires some very specific courses for their History degree. These courses must be taken at EC. The cost is still reasonable, but if you don't like these core courses then that's just too bad. They also require 30 UL credits to TESU's 15 (18 when you count the capstone).

You can absolutely FILL your EC degree with US History courses, just like you can with TESU - whatever is not used in the major can be done in the Arts & Sciences and Free Electives.  You are not limited by this degree.  You also do not have to take the courses at EC, although if you switch from the 7cr plan to the 13cr plan (so taking 2 additional courses at EC), your cost only goes up by $550 ($225/course is a STEAL).

[allvia]

I understand that you want a bachelor degree, and that your preferred topic is American History. So I ask - what is your goal of this History degree?

Is it is just to obtain a degree in 'something' and 'history' is a topic you enjoy (nothing wrong with that).
If money is a factor, like for many here, and you're self-funding (via cash or loans) then TESU or UMPI would be a very affordable route to a history degree.
If your long term goal is to teach history (for example) this would be a good path to later move on to get a Master in American History (which is a thing).
There really isn't a 'Bachelor of American History' at any of the college/universities - not just the ones we talk about here, a rare find it would be (TESU would probably allow the most flexibility in having more US History courses than most, UMPI probably best route for student loans/financial aid at low cost) - https://www.princetonreview.com/college-...an-history

[dfrecore]

UMPI is sorely lacking in US History for their history concentration - I wouldn't do it if I wanted a history degree heavy in US History. I personally don't love their offerings for this degree either, so I get it. SNHU only has a 9cr concentration, as does Sterling College. If you want US History, it would be nice to really load up on it.

If I was going to get a history degree, I'd probably go to APU for a History degree with a concentration in US History (World Civ I & II and Research Methods are only "major" requirement, and then 30cr of US History; then 9cr of other history).

[bjcheung77]

OP - Are you working? Do you have tuition assistance or reimbursement? If you're paying out of pocket, the cheapest, easiest, fastest option would be the UMPI BA History.  It's competency based, so it all depends on how fast you can complete the courses, if you finish the 10 courses or so in two terms, your degree will cost $5400, you can transfer in 90 credits from ACE sources such as Sophia.org/Study.com

2 terms at UMPI costs $2800. Not sure where that $5400 comes from. It's $1400 per term at UMPI.

Oh snap! You're correct, I was thinking about my Walden program and if I finish, it'll cost $5400. For UMPI, two terms would be $2800. An amazing price for a "generic" BA History. I don't think there are too much of a difference between each "History" degree as there are so many "courses that can be chosen/selected from". The undergraduate degrees aren't really something that would put too much focus on, it's when you get to the Masters where you go into a more specific subject area. Get your Bachelors and focus on the Masters...

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Hi. Compare https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-.../VkNsQEIYx to https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/Current/...in-History

SNHU has 6 required "history" classes: US History 1 & 2, World Civilization 1 & 2, Making History (I assume this is like Historiography), and Capstone. It then has 6 history elective slots (which include your concentration), 12 free elective and 13 general elective slots.

TESU has 7 required "history" classes: US History 1 & 2, World Civilization or Western Civ 1 & 2, The Middle East, Historical Methods (again, I assume this is like Historiography) and Capstone. It then has 4 history elective slots (there is no concentration), 4 humanities elective slots and 10 free elective slots.

If your goal is to take all the classes at one college, go ahead. This forum is really focused on alternate sources of credit, instead of sticking with a single college for the entire degree. But there are absolutely ways to fit many US History classes into a TESU plan.

This is what I would do too, compare the courses required and what alternative electives you have for the degree, you might want to add the UMPI and see what options are available for that degree as well. For the cost, ease, speed - SNHU is probably not the way to go, I would select UMPI over that. But for TESU, you might have more flexibility at a cost... decisions decisions...

[TheLibrarian]

I understand that you want a bachelor degree, and that your preferred topic is American History. So I ask - what is your goal of this History degree?

Is it is just to obtain a degree in 'something' and 'history' is a topic you enjoy (nothing wrong with that).
If money is a factor, like for many here, and you're self-funding (via cash or loans) then TESU or UMPI would be a very affordable route to a history degree.
If your long term goal is to teach history (for example) this would be a good path to later move on to get a Master in American History (which is a thing).
There really isn't a 'Bachelor of American History' at any of the college/universities - not just the ones we talk about here, a rare find it would be (TESU would probably allow the most flexibility in having more US History courses than most, UMPI probably best route for student loans/financial aid at low cost) - https://www.princetonreview.com/college-...an-history

I do not want to be a teacher. I want to work in a museum, an archivist most likely. I understand that its not considered "American history degree" its just the classes I wanna take haha

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Thanks so much for all the suggestions. I am going to look more into TESU (thanks to yous that have given me the information on how that program works) and also UMPI.

From what I gathered, between and google, a masters is good idea, which I am not opposed to so I will work on getting the history degree and then the Masters in American History.

I am currently working on a few classes on study that I know will be needed for any history degree and I will continue to see what option is best for me.

Thanks again!

[TheLibrarian]

AOS Electives:
History:
History 306: The American Civil War Era @ SDC - $100
HI304: Civil War Era (RA credit) @ Sterling College - $435

I would be concerned about these duplicating, unless you know that TESU brings them in as different course codes?

You're right! Oops. 

In that case, replace the Sterling College course with one of the following:
HI322: Kansas History and Government (RA credit) @ Sterling College - $435
HIST 3383 Arkansas and the Southwest @ University of Arkansas Self-Paced - $495
HIST 4563 The Old South, 1607-1865 @ University of Arkansas Self-Paced - $495
HIS 317L - Women in United States History @ University of Texas Extension - $895

Diné College and College of DuPage also have some interesting history courses but they are, unfortunately, all LL courses. 

Real Quick, I was looking at sterling college history classes and I saw these, would they work as well?

The Gilded Age (HI306)
Early America (HI302)
African American History (HI421) <--- This is one you suggested originally. 

So I switched out the Modern America and did not choose any of the suggestions above. I am just wondering if these are okay since the course code is in the 300s. I do know that they don't always transfer the same though.

One other question: Are the conerstone and capstone considered RA credits?

[bjcheung77]

Yup, the cornerstone/capstone is taken at the institution such as a college/university or institute, thus it's RA credit. ACE/Alternative credit are taken through course providers such as Sophia.org and Study.com, etc...

[TheLibrarian]

Yup, the cornerstone/capstone is taken at the institution such as a college/university or institute, thus it's RA credit.  ACE/Alternative credit are taken through course providers such as Sophia.org and Study.com, etc...

Oh sweet! So really this looks like it will work! Other than the Sterling College, wont be too bad. I mean I am looking for cheaper options but I doubt I'll find it, to cover RA and UL. I may only be able to take 1 every few months if I am paying $435. I have one class (public speaking) from a community college that should transfer, would that count as RA? I mean it will be LL but if it counts as RA then I could take a cheaper UL at like study right? If not thats okay, I'm just thinking out loud. haha

16 credit term means taking all the classes in one semester, correct? So Like January 2022 I would take all 16 classes and potentially graduate in May? 


You guys are all amazing!

[dfrecore]

Yup, the cornerstone/capstone is taken at the institution such as a college/university or institute, thus it's RA credit.  ACE/Alternative credit are taken through course providers such as Sophia.org and Study.com, etc...

Oh sweet! So really this looks like it will work! Other than the Sterling College, wont be too bad. I mean I am looking for cheaper options but I doubt I'll find it, to cover RA and UL. I may only be able to take 1 every few months if I am paying $435. I have one class (public speaking) from a community college that should transfer, would that count as RA? I mean it will be LL but if it counts as RA then I could take a cheaper UL at like study right? If not thats okay, I'm just thinking out loud. haha

16 credit term means taking all the classes in one semester, correct? So Like January 2022 I would take all 16 classes and potentially graduate in May? 


You guys are all amazing!

You can take most of your UL through Study.com and/or Coopersmith.  ONU has an UL Latin American History course that covers the non-western History requirement, and it's only $150.  You can also cover that through the World Conflicts UExcel exam.  Both are RA credit.

Your best bet is to plan out every single course you need/want, in this order:
1) RA credit that is easily/cheaply obtained (and yes your Public Speaking course will count); the RA credit does NOT need to be UL or in the major or anything, just 24cr that will fit into the degree; plan 8 courses
2) UL credit in the major
3) LL credit in the major
4) required courses that check the box in each area of GE

So you will want to create a spreadsheet that looks very much like the TESU degree plan, with a column for the course #/name, a column showing where you will take it, a column counting credit that you have taken, a column counting credit that you have left to take (these 2 add up to 120cr); a column counting RA credit, and a column counting UL credit; and a column with the prices.

I make mine "pretty" and nicely laid out so I can really understand it, and then I count RA and UL credits outside of the "pretty" part.  Kind of off to the side.

If you can find RA credit that counts towards your major coursework, that's fine, but not 100% necessary.  But, if you really want to take some courses at Sterling, plan those in accordingly.