SNHU vs UMPI?

[Duneranger]

Anyone have experience at both of these colleges? Aside from CBE at UMPI, I’m trying to decide what school has a better experience when it comes to the BA in History program. I am coming in with a BA degree already and I have maxed out all of the history courses on Sophia. Not super interested in moving onto study.com as I will still need 30 credits from either school regardless (and that’s about what I need at this point).

[ss20ts]

What's your end goal? Is the degree for personal reasons or career? UMPI is not a semester based program like SNHU. At SNHU you will have weekly deadlines and every class is 7 weeks long. That can be beneficial and it can drag on or interfere with plans such as a vacation, getting sick, etc. SNHU will cost more for 30 credits. UMPI is a state university whereas SNHU is not fi that makes any difference to you. It seems like you have some freedom in the history program at UMPI with course selection. Don't know if SNHU is like that. Is there anything in particular in history you want to study? One university may offer it and the other may not. UMPI is all papers and PowerPoints in the history program.

[Duneranger]

What's your end goal? Is the degree for personal reasons or career? UMPI is not a semester based program like SNHU. At SNHU you will have weekly deadlines and every class is 7 weeks long. That can be beneficial and it can drag on or interfere with plans such as a vacation, getting sick, etc. SNHU will cost more for 30 credits. UMPI is a state university whereas SNHU is not fi that makes any difference to you. It seems like you have some freedom in the history program at UMPI with course selection. Don't know if SNHU is like that. Is there anything in particular in history you want to study? One university may offer it and the other may not. UMPI is all papers and PowerPoints in the history program.

Hi there. Just personal growth. Really has nothing to do with my career. CBE is really nice at UMPI, but their class selection in my area of interest (World Wars, ancient European history) is limited. SNHU has more to offer in that regard. UMPI is super convenient and allows me to power through classes, their classes just don’t align with my interests.

I get the military discount at SNHU which is. But cost isn’t a huge factor.

[CenterSquarEd]

What's your end goal? Is the degree for personal reasons or career? UMPI is not a semester based program like SNHU. At SNHU you will have weekly deadlines and every class is 7 weeks long. That can be beneficial and it can drag on or interfere with plans such as a vacation, getting sick, etc. SNHU will cost more for 30 credits. UMPI is a state university whereas SNHU is not fi that makes any difference to you. It seems like you have some freedom in the history program at UMPI with course selection. Don't know if SNHU is like that. Is there anything in particular in history you want to study? One university may offer it and the other may not. UMPI is all papers and PowerPoints in the history program.

Hi there. Just personal growth. Really has nothing to do with my career. CBE is really nice at UMPI, but their class selection in my area of interest (World Wars, ancient European history) is limited. SNHU has more to offer in that regard. UMPI is super convenient and allows me to power through classes, their classes just don’t align with my interests.

I get the military discount at SNHU which is. But cost isn’t a huge factor.

SNHU also offers a Master’s degree in History, would you get a similar discount?

[Duneranger]

What's your end goal? Is the degree for personal reasons or career? UMPI is not a semester based program like SNHU. At SNHU you will have weekly deadlines and every class is 7 weeks long. That can be beneficial and it can drag on or interfere with plans such as a vacation, getting sick, etc. SNHU will cost more for 30 credits. UMPI is a state university whereas SNHU is not fi that makes any difference to you. It seems like you have some freedom in the history program at UMPI with course selection. Don't know if SNHU is like that. Is there anything in particular in history you want to study? One university may offer it and the other may not. UMPI is all papers and PowerPoints in the history program.

Hi there. Just personal growth. Really has nothing to do with my career. CBE is really nice at UMPI, but their class selection in my area of interest (World Wars, ancient European history) is limited. SNHU has more to offer in that regard. UMPI is super convenient and allows me to power through classes, their classes just don’t align with my interests.

I get the military discount at SNHU which is. But cost isn’t a huge factor.

SNHU also offers a Master’s degree in History, would you get a similar discount?

Yes. But I already have a masters in history (sort of a specialty too). Wanted a BA to be more well rounded since my first degree is science based.

[bjcheung77]

Hmm, You have a Masters in History (with a specialty) and you're looking for a BA History? Why not go for a TESU BA History? You can transfer in your credits into the Major and take any outstanding credits. With the other degrees all transferring credit, you can just take any remaining credits that aren't complete in the Major.

[Duneranger]

Hmm, You have a Masters in History (with a specialty) and you're looking for a BA History?  Why not go for a TESU BA History?  You can transfer in your credits into the Major and take any outstanding credits.  With the other degrees all transferring credit, you can just take any remaining credits that aren't complete in the Major.

Definitely looked into TESU. Their class list interested me even less than UMPI unfortunately. It’s heavily focused on Americana.

SNHU is interesting because they have different history concentrations. I am okay with forgoing a CBE experience if the quality at SNHU is decent.

I’ve looked at other state online BA History programs. Their credit requirements for history aren’t over the top, but many have weird gen eds (4 sem foreign language) that they won’t waive if I have a BA. Also many if not most won’t take my Sophia language or history courses.

I don’t mind doing the BA work for history 10-14 classes, but the over the top gen eds are a bridge too far for me.

Regarding TESU: For my own knowledge, how would credit transfer there differ from UMPI?

[rachel83az]

TESU normally allows you to transfer in up to 116 out of 120 credits. Because you have a prior degree, the gen eds and electives will be waived, leaving only the capstone that has to be taken at TESU. Otherwise, you can literally take any history courses from any RA institution and bring them to TESU.

Exactly what kind of history are you looking for? If you do the flat-rate term to skip paying the residency fee, TESU does offer:

Introduction to Chinese History and Culture (HIS-2610)
African American History (HIS-3061)
The Middle East (HIS-3100)

I suppose African American history would still count as "Americana", but Chinese history and Middle East history obviously are not an American history.

[Duneranger]

TESU normally allows you to transfer in up to 116 out of 120 credits. Because you have a prior degree, the gen eds and electives will be waived, leaving only the capstone that has to be taken at TESU. Otherwise, you can literally take any history courses from any RA institution and bring them to TESU.

Exactly what kind of history are you looking for? If you do the flat-rate term to skip paying the residency fee, TESU does offer:

Introduction to Chinese History and Culture (HIS-2610)
African American History (HIS-3061)
The Middle East (HIS-3100)

I suppose African American history would still count as "Americana", but Chinese history and Middle East history obviously are not an American history.

Prefer ancient or medieval. UMPI does have medieval at the least. TESU is tempting though if that is the case with transfer credits.

The Middle East class could definitely be interesting. Depending on how far they go back, it could be considered ancient.

Do you know if they take the ASU adult learner credit.

I read something about a residency fee? Is it waived for the military? Also I cant remember but is TESU CBE?

[rachel83az]

Prefer ancient or medieval. UMPI does have medieval at the least. TESU is tempting though if that is the case with transfer credits.

That's a bit difficult, but not impossible! There are some suggestions for courses to transfer to TESU here:
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

You can also check out the list of schools here and see if anything jumps out at you: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sources_of_Credit

As long as you meet the Western/World Civ, American, Non-Western, and Historical Methods requirements, the rest of a TESU degree can be literally anything. The anything would need to include sufficient UL credit.

It's a bit more expensive than some other sources due to being on the quarter credit and not semester credit system, but OSU has an enormous list of classes. Some of which may interest you: https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/soc/ecat...ubject=HST

A few examples that you might want:

• HST 325 – Early Christianity: Origins to 600
  
• HST 327 – History of Medieval Europe
  
• HST 382 – History of Africa
  
• HST 388 – Islamic Civilization
  
• HST 391 – Traditional China and Japan
  

Each of these would be 2.67 credits at TESU instead of the typical 3 semester credit classes. The difference is something to keep in mind when looking for interesting classes.

The Middle East class could definitely be interesting. Depending on how far they go back, it could be considered ancient.

The syllabus is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hglv...sp=sharing You can look up the required textbooks and see what you think.

Do you know if they take the ASU adult learner credit.

You mean the Universal Learner courses? They do! Known equivalents are here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Ar...al_Learner

I read something about a residency fee? Is it waived for the military?

The residency fee is charged to students who take fewer than 15 TESU credits. Students who qualify for the military rate must take at least 24 TESU credits. https://www.tesu.edu/military/degree-completion However, for military rate students, TECEPs do count toward this requirement. Because you have a prior degree, I would either just take the TESU capstone and pay the residency waiver fee or only complete 15 TESU credits and not bother trying to get the military rate. It could wind up costing you more to be on the military rate at this point.

Also I cant remember but is TESU CBE?

TESU classes are not CBE. They are standard 12-week classes. However, the accepted Sophia/SDC courses are kind of CBE. Not entirely, but closer to CBE than non-CBE in my opinion.