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(05-06-2021, 11:24 AM)Alpha Wrote: (05-06-2021, 03:55 AM)collegecareerstudent Wrote: This is super intriguing and I may actually jump into this!
Yeah, because you don't already have enough going on, so why not get a doctoral degree?
If you have considerable experience and college credits at the graduate level, you may be able to PLA the requirements for Walden's ABD program, here's another option for you to consider: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ars-18-650
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While it's true that I do have a lot going on- and I will be making a post about new programs from Harvard soon- I'm fairly decent at time management and juggling things. Without the responsibility of a spouse or family, I have plenty of time.
The Walden program looks incredible, but it does require an on campus component, understandably, but that's not something I can commit to, which is why the FlexPath DBA sounds really good. I'm also on the final stretch of my MBA through Bottega University (I passed on Capella for the MBA) (also post pending).
My only concern about both programs is that there have seemed to have been some issues with the schools keeping students enrolled indefinitely. I read on Capella's Wikipedia that one lady trying to get her DNP spent over 100,000 dollars some years ago before dropping out! Talk about yikes!!!
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(05-06-2021, 07:09 PM)collegecareerstudent Wrote: My only concern about both programs is that there have seemed to have been some issues with the schools keeping students enrolled indefinitely. I read on Capella's Wikipedia that one lady trying to get her DNP spent over 100,000 dollars some years ago before dropping out! Talk about yikes!!!
Walden has had a number of horror stories like that for their Doctoral programs. One account was like reading a Hollywood screenplay with a crash ending.
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Oh wow!!! Need to delve into those!
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There is a current class action suit against Capella for (alleged) misrepresentation of how long it takes to finish a doctoral program.
https://capellauniversitylawsuit.com/
https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/08/ju...-students/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capella_Un...troversies
"He says a recruiter told him by email that “our typical learner will complete their PhD program in 3 years.” In fact, as Capella disclosed to the federal government in 2016, the average student takes 75 months to complete the program — more than twice as long."
Something to keep in mind - but it also doesn't mean your results would be the same.
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75 months!!!!!??? *faints*
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05-08-2021, 10:23 AM
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(05-07-2021, 08:42 PM)dbinghamjr Wrote: There is a current class action suit against Capella for (alleged) misrepresentation of how long it takes to finish a doctoral program.
https://capellauniversitylawsuit.com/
https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/08/ju...-students/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capella_Un...troversies
"He says a recruiter told him by email that “our typical learner will complete their PhD program in 3 years.” In fact, as Capella disclosed to the federal government in 2016, the average student takes 75 months to complete the program — more than twice as long."
Something to keep in mind - but it also doesn't mean your results would be the same.
I find that both the university and the student are at fault here. I have colleagues who have obtained their PhD's from Capella, both finished on time and had great experiences. At the same time, the university is at fault because they are more than likely admitting anyone to their doctorate programs, without any requirements. This means that you may get students who would never be able to complete a dissertation or undertake the level of research required for a PhD.
We have had similar complaints from students for our bachelors degrees to our masters degrees. For example we have a student in one of our accelerated bachelor programs, who is on year #5 and complaining that it is the university's fault why he has not been able to pass certain courses in the program.
The university is a large public state supported university that offers bachelors to doctorate degrees. We have also had complaints from time to time about our master degree programs, where students are taking up to 3 years to complete them. This is rare but it happens. As for the university's doctorate programs, we require standardized testing, entrance essays, and references for both of them. These items do not necessarily guarantee doctorate course work capability, but it helps to weed out students who are capable of handling doctoral level work, from those who are incapable possibly.
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(05-08-2021, 10:23 AM)sacredrain Wrote: I find that both the university and the student are at fault here. I have colleagues who have obtained their PhD's from Capella, both finished on time and had great experiences. At the same time, the university is at fault because they are more than likely admitting anyone to their doctorate programs, without any requirements. This means that you may get students who would never be able to complete a dissertation or undertake the level of research required for a PhD.
Honestly, I agree with you on that - most of the well-known for-profits (and a growing number of non-profits) readily admit people who have zero business being in college at all.
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(05-08-2021, 11:44 AM)dbinghamjr Wrote: Honestly, I agree with you on that - most of the well-known for-profits (and a growing number of non-profits) readily admit people who have zero business being in college at all.
Which, looked at another way, isn't bad at all since it gives everyone the opportunity to prove themselves. The downside is that these types of schools leave many disgruntled ex-students, but usually the majority of them don't really understand what they're fighting about, they just feel wronged and start grasping at anything to wage a payback. Sadly, there are plenty of lawyers out there willing to help them do it.
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(05-07-2021, 08:42 PM)dbinghamjr Wrote: There is a current class action suit against Capella for (alleged) misrepresentation of how long it takes to finish a doctoral program.
https://capellauniversitylawsuit.com/
https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/08/ju...-students/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capella_Un...troversies
"He says a recruiter told him by email that “our typical learner will complete their PhD program in 3 years.” In fact, as Capella disclosed to the federal government in 2016, the average student takes 75 months to complete the program — more than twice as long."
Something to keep in mind - but it also doesn't mean your results would be the same.
Was that for a flexpath program or a regular program?
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