UMPI

[ashkir]

I can't remember if it's been noted in THIS thread or elsewhere but I'd just like to remind anyone who's considering getting two degrees from UMPI that you shouldn't go after a lib studies degree first. ss20s has noted that UMPI considers lib studies to be a "terminal degree", meaning that your studies are done and you cannot get another degree. So if you are considering (say) English/communications + educational studies, I think you'd want to go after the English degree first and then switch to the educational studies one.

They're actually super upfront about that. If you tell them you want to do English and Educational Studies Minor, they'll mark your plan to include both and you're not done until you finished the requirements for both.

That's great! I'm glad that they're easier to deal with than TESU. With TESU, it sometimes feels like you have to "trick" them into letting you get a degree.

UMPI wants you to be successful. They care about their students outcomes. I think that matters a lot

[Swoneus]

Any knowledge as to the flexibility of the foreign language requirements in the GEC? I'd rather not take Spanish or French with UMPI if I can afford it, as I've been self-studying Brazilian Portuguese for over a year now. Any chance they'd accept ACFTL credits in place or transfer credits from an RA institution that would teaches Portuguese?

ACFTL would be optimal, but they only test European Portuguese, which is a whole hurdle by itself.

[Ann7]

I can't remember if it's been noted in THIS thread or elsewhere but I'd just like to remind anyone who's considering getting two degrees from UMPI that you shouldn't go after a lib studies degree first. ss20s has noted that UMPI considers lib studies to be a "terminal degree", meaning that your studies are done and you cannot get another degree. So if you are considering (say) English/communications + educational studies, I think you'd want to go after the English degree first and then switch to the educational studies one.

They're actually super upfront about that. If you tell them you want to do English and Educational Studies Minor, they'll mark your plan to include both and you're not done until you finished the requirements for both.

Yes that's something to consider!  Thanks!

Also good to know that they work with you nicely!

[ashkir]

Any knowledge as to the flexibility of the foreign language requirements in the GEC? I'd rather not take Spanish or French with UMPI if I can afford it, as I've been self-studying Brazilian Portuguese for over a year now. Any chance they'd accept ACFTL credits in place or transfer credits from an RA institution that would teaches Portuguese?

ACFTL would be optimal, but they only test European Portuguese, which is a whole hurdle by itself.

They are very generous on PLA credits. If you can effectively prove it and or have college equivalent credit ACFTL is ACE credit. UMPI will likely take it.

[Ann7]

How is the BLS in educational studies?  Is it geared toward elementary, middle school or high school teaching?  IT appears to have 4 upper level classes already.  DO you need a certain amount of upper levels in the electives also?  What are the total requirements?  

 How quickly are you able to get courses done?  Did you transfer Sophia courses?  If so how many came in?

I understand there's no teacher certification or hands on experience .   Would these classes be needed as prerequisites for a Masters in teaching or education?  I am still pondering bachelor degrees options and the more information the better!    

I'm in the BLS but I have not done the educational studies minor. Yes, all UMPI degrees require UL courses. I can't tell you have many are required, because each degree is different. That's a question for admissions. 

I only transferred in a few Sophia courses. Course length varies drastically. Each course is different. Some have a lot of content and some don't. Just like Sophia's courses. Some have very long and time consuming Final Assessments and some don't. It also depends on your level of interest in the topic. 

Teaching is a state by state thing. Every state has different requirements. You will need to research what your state requires. 

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I doubt it you can do one class every 3 days. Its not Sophia. Its University. No matter how course is structured its very small change u can do 1 class= 3 days, maybe for some courses if u have familiarity with them. But i wouldnt count on it

I have completed the course content in a few classes in 3 days, but that doesn't finish the course. There's the Final Assessment which is usually a paper or project. I can't see how anyone could finish an entire course in just 3 days unless they didn't sleep and worked on the class all day and night. Some of these courses I was familiar with the topic and other courses I wasn't. We also have to keep in mind our grades! Our ENTIRE grade is based on the Final Assessment. Anything below an 80 is a failure. So you can't just write a crappy paper and expect to pass. 

Thanks for the info.!  No wonder I couldn't find specifics on upper level requirements .... makes sense then that they vary!

[rachel83az]

Any knowledge as to the flexibility of the foreign language requirements in the GEC? I'd rather not take Spanish or French with UMPI if I can afford it, as I've been self-studying Brazilian Portuguese for over a year now. Any chance they'd accept ACFTL credits in place or transfer credits from an RA institution that would teaches Portuguese?

ACFTL would be optimal, but they only test European Portuguese, which is a whole hurdle by itself.

IIRC, UMPI teaches more than Spanish or French but those two languages are the only ones available online. If you were to transfer in something like Brazillian Portuguese or German, I'm guessing that they'd be okay with that.

[Cofffeee]

I am waiting for response on the foreign language ACE transfer. I wouldnt take Spanish or French with UMPI. I hope to transfer Russian as ACE. Registrar explained that most probably it will be accepted but they forwarded my request to the person responsible for UMPI Yourpace. I will update when they respond

[ss20ts]

Any knowledge as to the flexibility of the foreign language requirements in the GEC? I'd rather not take Spanish or French with UMPI if I can afford it, as I've been self-studying Brazilian Portuguese for over a year now. Any chance they'd accept ACFTL credits in place or transfer credits from an RA institution that would teaches Portuguese?

ACFTL would be optimal, but they only test European Portuguese, which is a whole hurdle by itself.

You would have to inquire with admissions in the YourPace office. On campus they offer a variety of languages. In YourPace, they currently offer French and Spanish. They just added Spanish in October. 

RA credits will easily transfer in. ACE credits aren't as easy to transfer in. 

[ashkir]

I can't remember if it's been noted in THIS thread or elsewhere but I'd just like to remind anyone who's considering getting two degrees from UMPI that you shouldn't go after a lib studies degree first. ss20s has noted that UMPI considers lib studies to be a "terminal degree", meaning that your studies are done and you cannot get another degree. So if you are considering (say) English/communications + educational studies, I think you'd want to go after the English degree first and then switch to the educational studies one.

They're actually super upfront about that. If you tell them you want to do English and Educational Studies Minor, they'll mark your plan to include both and you're not done until you finished the requirements for both.

Yes that's something to consider!  Thanks!

Also good to know that they work with you nicely!

UMPI is easily the most responsive school here on this forum. They're more generous with ACE credits than TESU, COSC, and WGU are now with their new policy changes. You do have to complete 30 through UMPI, but, you can always split and do multiple degrees, etc. 

They are very willing to work with you. They're super invested in your success, and respond to you quickly. I don't think I've ever waited more then 4 hours during business hours without a response.

After ss20ts got admitted they changed their ACE policy to be unlimited. They're very flexible with them now. They took all of my Sophia. Most came in as electives, but a few came in as higher levels. I inquired about Straighterlines/Study.com classes and they will meet a lot of targets.

[ashkir]

I'm doing MAT140 right now. The PreCalc from Aleks and College Algebra did not satisfy Basic Mathematics for Business. This is a mix of elementary Algebra (mostly pre-Algebra) and Geomentry.

The content is very well explained, with several examples. The examples are written in a way to try and get you to think and get feedback. There are pictures, videos, graphs, etc explaining things. It actually does a lot better job then my geoementry teacher in high school... Only class I ever failed. I actually somehow understand it now? On Aleks Pre Calc I failed all the geometry questions but still had enough to pass because of my algebra skills and clever guessing.

I spent about 3 hours so far and am nearly done with MAT140.


your mileage may vary

I am very good at Algebra. So I was able to breeze through the Algebra content. There are quizzes that "test" your assessment before. If you test out of it, you skip straight to the assignment, which asks you to write/explain how to solve something, or asks you to adjust something. They ask you to SOLVE the sample in your own words. They're asking you to explain how the example is solved, they GAVE you the answer for.

I haven't done the assessment yet. I'm going to brush up for a few more hours on graphs/geometry as I hated those in previous classes.