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COSC AS/BS....ease of use, something a little different.
#1
Something a little different. We often look at how to reduce cost and time but I have a student with learning issues who is severely test phobic. I think with very specific instruction a credit by exam would maybe be OK (that's how the Davar Academy stuff makes the list) but what i'm really looking for is ease and confidence building without breaking the bank. Striaghterline and Penn Foster are sort of the nucleus. I figure they can concentrate on one thing at a time and just keep plowing through. In my mind the second half is easy once the AS is accomplished. This person flies airplanes (fully licensed through multi engine and instrument flying) but school was a chore and they lack academic confidence. I do need to keep it affordable and I'm hoping that with a little SL and maybe a couple of Davar Academy courses they will figure out that CLEP and DSST aren't to be feared...but till then.

What would you substitute or change of the below thinking..."ease"/confidence builder. I want to stick with COSC as I know it best and will be the default adviser for this person.

Charter Oak State College
PF=Penn Foster, SL=Straighterline, DA=Davar Academy (exam based)

General Education:

English Comp 1
SL English Comp 1
3
$180
DA option, $70

English Com 2
SL English Comp 2
3
$180
DA option,$70

Speech
SL Intro to Communications (DA option, $70)
3
$180
DA option,$70

Ethics
PF Business Ethics BUS400
3 UL
$330
DA option, $70

Natural Science (3)
Davar Academy Meteorology
3
$70
test based

US History 1
SL US History 1
3
$180
DA option $70 US Gov.

Non US History/Culture
Global Understanding
SL World Religions
3
$180

Social/Behavioral Science
SL Intro to Psych or Intro to Sociology
3
$180

Math
SL College Algebra (should look for alternates)
3
$180
DA option,$70

Natural Science with Lab (4)
SL Biology with lab
4
$250


Literature/Fine Arts
CLEP A&I Lit or American Lit
PF ENG 115 Intro to Lit
3
$330 (PF)
$100 (CLEP)

GEN ED
TOTAL:
34
$1230 to $2010 depending on selection


Electives
FEMA IS COURSES
24
FREE


COSC
Cornerstone at COSC
3

60 Total Credits

AS Degree Cost: $2530 to $3310 +fees



BS (once AS is achieved)

Organizational Leadership (30 Upper Level (UL) credit in Concentration)
Concentration
PF BUS 340 Organizational Behavior
3
$330
DA option $70


PF BUS 315 Legal Env. Business
3
$330


Business Ethics (from gen eds)
3


PF BUS 425 Strategic Business Mngt.
3
$330
DA option $70


PF BUS 350 Supervision & Leadership
3
$330




PF BUS 430 International Business
3
$330
DA option Int. Mngt. $70


DA MAN 390 Managerial Communications
3
$70


CSU-P MNGT 318 Human Resources
3
$530


CSU-P SOC 310 Social/Cultural Theory
3
$530


Required LL
CLEP Microeconomics (required)
3
$100
DA option $70


CLEP Macroeconomics (required)
3
$100
DA option $70

Total Concentration $2980

Electives
Any liberal arts credits from any viable source 30 credits needed. English, Literature, Science, Math, Social Science, History, Humanities, Music,
24credit
8 classes
$70
To $330
Each class
$560-????


COSC
Capstone Course
3
$1300




***Must have a total of 60 liberal arts credit between this and General Ed courses for the BS degree.

Cost can be reduced by using CLEP or DSST and Davar Academy Exams….watch the courses and their level as substitutions are made.

Can likely be completed in 12-24 months

Minor Concentration (optional)
PF HRM 320 Employee Benefits
PF HRM 350 Labor Relations
PF HRM 355 Training Concepts
PF HRM210 Compensation Mngt. (LL)


Total for BS Degree including AS cost: $7510 to $8290
MBA, Western Governors University February 2014
BS Charter Oak State College November 2011
AS in EMS August 2010

I'm always happy to complete the free application waiver for those applying to WGU (I get a free gift from WGU for this).  Just PM me your first/last name and a valid email so I can complete their form.

Thread; COSC AS using FEMA http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...total.html
#2
SL Microeconomics and Macroeconomics are probably easier. Both can also be taken at some other places, but SL seems best.

#3
Ed4Credit allows you to take longer to get though courses (4 months), and they allow each exam except the final to be taken 3 times, so that's a huge bonus. You need to pass the final with a 50%, but it is open notes. It reminds me of PF's Financial Management course I took - very similar setup. Also SL I think. The textbook comes with it and is online. And they have a $30 off coupon right now.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#4
My daughter is also doing Charter Oak, and suffers from serious testing anxiety, so I can definitely see what you're looking for.

The things that helped her the most get some confidence was starting out with the free and low cost courses which had NO proctored or timed exam and allowed her to feel like there was no stress. TEEX was the first thing she tackled and it really helped. ALEKS was the next thing and worked out the same way. FEMAs also. Things where she was building confidence in testing without being observed. Shmoop was also good'ish, because she could hide the timer but the fact that the test was timed caused some initial anxiety which she eventually got used to. Then Study.com was next, because it was proctored but at least she could do it at home and she had major test anxiety on the first proctored exam, but it was gone after another test or two (and she only worked on 1 class at a time, finishing 2 a month). She's almost halfway into her degree and just now entertaining the possibility that maybe, somewhere down the road, she might consider going to a testing center. So... ease them into it would be my suggestion. Start off with tests which can be retaken until passed or cost nothing to start so there is no loss fear.
#5
txnicole Wrote:My daughter is also doing Charter Oak, and suffers from serious testing anxiety, so I can definitely see what you're looking for.

The things that helped her the most get some confidence was starting out with the free and low cost courses which had NO proctored or timed exam and allowed her to feel like there was no stress. TEEX was the first thing she tackled and it really helped. ALEKS was the next thing and worked out the same way. FEMAs also. Things where she was building confidence in testing without being observed. Shmoop was also good'ish, because she could hide the timer but the fact that the test was timed caused some initial anxiety which she eventually got used to. Then Study.com was next, because it was proctored but at least she could do it at home and she had major test anxiety on the first proctored exam, but it was gone after another test or two (and she only worked on 1 class at a time, finishing 2 a month). She's almost halfway into her degree and just now entertaining the possibility that maybe, somewhere down the road, she might consider going to a testing center. So... ease them into it would be my suggestion. Start off with tests which can be retaken until passed or cost nothing to start so there is no loss fear.

You know, that is an excellent plan, to not only try to get around the anxiety, but to kind of solve the problem in a slow, methodical way. I like this very much, and think it might work for a LOT of people.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#6
txnicole Wrote:Then Study.com was next, because it was proctored but at least she could do it at home and she had major test anxiety on the first proctored exam, but it was gone after another test or two (and she only worked on 1 class at a time, finishing 2 a month). She's almost halfway into her degree and just now entertaining the possibility that maybe, somewhere down the road, she might consider going to a testing center.

Smile

And with Study.com, you can pass with about 56-59% on the final, if you are a little careful with quizzes.

#7
Awesome ideas, thanks.

I did start them off on FEMA, the PDS to be exact. So much anxiety I'm surprised he got through it....but did!

What is the going rate for study.com and ed4credit?
MBA, Western Governors University February 2014
BS Charter Oak State College November 2011
AS in EMS August 2010

I'm always happy to complete the free application waiver for those applying to WGU (I get a free gift from WGU for this).  Just PM me your first/last name and a valid email so I can complete their form.

Thread; COSC AS using FEMA http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...total.html
#8
rebel100 Wrote:Awesome ideas, thanks.

I did start them off on FEMA, the PDS to be exact. So much anxiety I'm surprised he got through it....but did!

What is the going rate for study.com and ed4credit?

Smile

Study.com costs $199 for the first two exams in a month, and $70 to add additional ones in the same month.

Ed4Credit is $195 a course, but I think there's a $30 coupon.



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