Trying to apply at TESU

[Mamawenzie]

For the last few days I've been trying to apply at TESU. They've been having website issues. First their application link was down. When that was fixed I was able to apply, but not pay the $75 application fee (that link wasn't working.) Today I called and TESU said they see my application, but currently there is no way to pay the fee and they are working on it. I'm trying to beat the cornerstone class, but with all the delays (and who knows what other random changes TESU will make) it may not work. I just don't want to have my application lost in limbo. I was told that TESU would call me when the issue was fixed.

Is anyone else having issues trying to apply this week?

[Mamawenzie]

Wow! TESU just called me back and said I caught a lucky break. Since I applied while the website wasn't fully functional, it wasn't my fault, so they are waiving the $75 application fee and moving forward with processing the application! Both people that I have spoken with at TESU have been extremely friendly and helpful. This was my first time actually dealing with the university, and while initially experiencing confusion on their website, I'm very impressed with their customer service representatives in the admissions department.

[managerman]

Wow! TESU just called me back and said I caught a lucky break. Since I applied while the website wasn't fully functional, it wasn't my fault, so they are waiving the $75 application fee and moving forward with processing the application! Both people that I have spoken with at TESU have been extremely friendly and helpful. This was my first time actually dealing with the university, and while initially experiencing confusion on their website, I'm very impressed with their customer service representatives in the admissions department.

Don't worry, TESU will still have plenty of chances to screw things up for youmilelol: Congrats on getting your app fee waived, I guess they are feeling generous since so many people will now be giving them $2000 to basically ignore a requirement for graduation.

[jsd]

I guess they are feeling generous since so many people will now be giving them $2000 to basically ignore a requirement for graduation.

Considering that the average student was paying $3400+ to have this waived in the past, and those not waiving are required to take less classes than they had in the past, this is actually a decrease in funds that TESU is receiving and a benefit to most of their students.

I think we sometimes forget around here that folks like us, testing out of everything we can and finding alternative pathways, are far from the majority. In fact, we're a tiny, tiny fraction of the student base, and these policies aren't aimed at us and we're such a small proportion of what they're working with that we don't even register for the most part. Although it can hinder us a bit, this is a net benefit to almost all of their students.

[Prloko]

Considering that the average student was paying $3400+ to have this waived in the past, and those not waiving are required to take less classes than they had in the past, this is actually a decrease in funds that TESU is receiving and a benefit to most of their students.

I think we sometimes forget around here that folks like us, testing out of everything we can and finding alternative pathways, are far from the majority. In fact, we're a tiny, tiny fraction of the student base, and these policies aren't aimed at us and we're such a small proportion of what they're working with that we don't even register for the most part. Although it can hinder us a bit, this is a net benefit to almost all of their students.

You are someone with the ability to think critically and not with just what is in front of their face. I wish more people did this.

[Mamasaphire]

Considering that the average student was paying $3400+ to have this waived in the past, and those not waiving are required to take less classes than they had in the past, this is actually a decrease in funds that TESU is receiving and a benefit to most of their students.

I think we sometimes forget around here that folks like us, testing out of everything we can and finding alternative pathways, are far from the majority. In fact, we're a tiny, tiny fraction of the student base, and these policies aren't aimed at us and we're such a small proportion of what they're working with that we don't even register for the most part. Although it can hinder us a bit, this is a net benefit to almost all of their students.

It depends how far in the past. I pulled up some old emails. When I applied in 2008, I was told there was a yearly Enrollment Fee of $1,350.00, with credits costing $220./credit. I'm still bummed I wasn't able to finish on that 2008 calendar!

[Mamawenzie]

Considering that the average student was paying $3400+ to have this waived in the past, and those not waiving are required to take less classes than they had in the past, this is actually a decrease in funds that TESU is receiving and a benefit to most of their students.

I think we sometimes forget around here that folks like us, testing out of everything we can and finding alternative pathways, are far from the majority. In fact, we're a tiny, tiny fraction of the student base, and these policies aren't aimed at us and we're such a small proportion of what they're working with that we don't even register for the most part. Although it can hinder us a bit, this is a net benefit to almost all of their students.

Actually, my plan will end up being cheaper than it would have been under the old plan! I'm excited about that! If I have to take the silly cornerstone class, it's okay. If I can avoid it, even better, but it's not really a huge deal since.

[managerman]

Considering that the average student was paying $3400+ to have this waived in the past, and those not waiving are required to take less classes than they had in the past, this is actually a decrease in funds that TESU is receiving and a benefit to most of their students.

I think we sometimes forget around here that folks like us, testing out of everything we can and finding alternative pathways, are far from the majority. In fact, we're a tiny, tiny fraction of the student base, and these policies aren't aimed at us and we're such a small proportion of what they're working with that we don't even register for the most part. Although it can hinder us a bit, this is a net benefit to almost all of their students.

I am not sure were you are getting the $3400 figure from but that certainly was not a part of the per credit plan that the majority of the new students are a part of. In general, yes, the majority of all college students are not testing out of or transferring in 100+ credits. This is hardly the case for TESU. In my conversation with the Resistrar, she estimated that somewhere between 65 and 75 percent of the total student population are transferring in north of 100 credits. That would include people that were or continue to be brick and mortar folks at other schools, but these changes effect them equally as well. This is a money grab for them. The university has no one tasked with finding ways to make less money. Now taking 16 credits in residency for the out of staters will be just shy of $8000. compare that to the cost of 8 teceps that was $888. Or you can bribe them with $2000 to do nothing but lower their own standard of graduation. Guess which road most are going to take. The net benefit here is that of the University. I guess $2000 isn't a bad price to pay for a degree from a university that potentially has had only a 1 credit cornerstone interaction with you class wise, plus the capstone that is required to be taken with them for all the BA'ers. This is closing the $888 dollar route to residency in favor of one that is $2000 for doing nothing but collecting the payment, to $8000 for taking the classes. The benefit (read $) is to TESU.

P.S. I am not trying to ruffle feathers here nor do I desire to be combative and I apologize if any of my posts have been interpreted as such. My goal is to share information in a community of people working towards improving their lives through gaining a college degree. I welcome and need opposing view points as well as looking at things from different angles and situations that people find themselves in. Also I know that just like every other business on earth, TESU needs to make money and I don't begrudge them for that. (But if they get less of mine I am ok with that too!) Good luck in your endeavors my friends.

[dfrecore]

I am not sure were you are getting the $3400 figure from but that certainly was not a part of the per credit plan that the majority of the new students are a part of. In general, yes, the majority of all college students are not testing out of or transferring in 100+ credits. This is hardly the case for TESU. In my conversation with the Resistrar, she estimated that somewhere between 65 and 75 percent of the total student population are transferring in north of 100 credits. That would include people that were or continue to be brick and mortar folks at other schools, but these changes effect them equally as well. This is a money grab for them. The university has no one tasked with finding ways to make less money. Now taking 16 credits in residency for the out of staters will be just shy of $8000. compare that to the cost of 8 teceps that was $888. Or you can bribe them with $2000 to do nothing but lower their own standard of graduation. Guess which road most are going to take. The net benefit here is that of the University. I guess $2000 isn't a bad price to pay for a degree from a university that potentially has had only a 1 credit cornerstone interaction with you class wise, plus the capstone that is required to be taken with them for all the BA'ers. This is closing the $888 dollar route to residency in favor of one that is $2000 for doing nothing but collecting the payment, to $8000 for taking the classes. The benefit (read $) is to TESU.

P.S. I am not trying to ruffle feathers here nor do I desire to be combative and I apologize if any of my posts have been interpreted as such. My goal is to share information in a community of people working towards improving their lives through gaining a college degree. I welcome and need opposing view points as well as looking at things from different angles and situations that people find themselves in. Also I know that just like every other business on earth, TESU needs to make money and I don't begrudge them for that. (But if they get less of mine I am ok with that too!) Good luck in your endeavors my friends.

It's only in the last few years that the Per-Credit Tuition Plan even existed. Prior to July 1 2013, that wasn't an option at all. Everyone paid the Enrolled Options Plan fee of something like $3000 to enroll. When they added the PCTP with the TECEP being able to meet residency requirements, most of us on this forum at that time were shocked. We knew it couldn't last, and I'm surprised they didn't close up that loophole the very next year, let alone take almost 3 years to figure it out.

Anyway, while I understand people being unhappy with the school's decision to change it back to what it was (it's now actually cheaper than it was back in 2013 to enroll), you still have to just evaluate it for what it is and decide if it makes the best financial decision for you to get a degree at TESU based on WHAT IS, rather than what used to be. If it does, keep on moving forward. If it doesn't, move on to one of the other schools that gives you a better outcome.

And, schools and all businesses are here to make money. It's like being angry with your grocery store because they make a profit. If they don't, they go out of business. But if you don't like their prices, you are always free to shop somewhere else, where you feel like you get better service, or more for your money, or whatever you value.

[jsd]

In my conversation with the Resistrar, she estimated that somewhere between 65 and 75 percent of the total student population are transferring in north of 100 credits.

Assuming this is correct, it still stands that most of these students aren't using test out options for their remaining credits. Like you said, they're transferring from other B&M or online schools in most cases and finishing up their degrees with TESU courses in most cases. 16 credits is reasonable for these folks to complete at TESU. It is now to their benefit to do 16 instead of 24.

dfrecore already addressed the point about the $3400 enrolled option (among other points), and with those points in mind I stand by the fact that this is a net benefit to your average TESU student. I'm not the average student and I still wish I had the $2000 option over the $3400 I paid to enroll just a month ago.

But if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. But it's certainly not a new bribe or money shake, since these options have existed all along, just under other names and at a higher cost.