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Way too true. My local community college wanted me to take remedial english and math because I had been out of school so long. I took SL math and english, got my AS in six months through same cc. Trick was clepping 30 hours and taking two courses required through SL. I really laughed when the advisor told me I couldn't sign up for a science class because I didn't have math (had already taken and passed 24 hours of biology, microbiology, chemistry, anatomy previously with top grades and yet, according to them, without remedial math (I had not taken SL math yet), I couldn't pass a science class. Just a rip off.
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07-18-2011, 02:58 AM
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I did pretty well on the SATs, but my scores are expired. My community college wanted me to take remedial math or the Accuplacer. I didn't want to take either, so I just took an ALEKS course which can transfer to TESC. The only problem was that I couldn't get into any science courses at my CC. I'll be looking into a DSST or Straighterline for the 3 science credits I need for TESC.
The thing is that even though I did pretty well on the SAT years ago and I was an A student in high school algebra, it had been years since I had taken a serious math course and I had forgotten almost everything. When I took the initial assessment on ALEKS for Intermediate Algebra, I only scored around 26%. I watched a series on college algebra on the Annenberg website to bring myself up to speed.
Ever since I left high school, I have taken math courses at Axia College (was under Western International University and moved to University of Phoenix) and Colorado Technical University that were almost on the elementary level. Axia College made everyone take basic math and algebra in two parts. At the time, my SAT scores were only a year old, but UoP doesn't care about that; everyone had to waste time and money on remedial math courses. They had algebra IA and algebra IB. I only got to IA before I withdrew from the school. None of the Big 3 or my community college will give credit for those courses because they're considered remedial or developmental. At the time, those courses cost around $800 each. THAT is the biggest rip-off ever.
Considering how illiterate 90% of my classmates have been at Axia College, Colorado Tech, and my CC; I believe English I should be a requirement for every non-math course whether you test out of it or take it as a course. But now that I think about it, Axia College and Colorado Tech schedule writing courses first along with those stupid introduction to online learning courses before you get to anything else. My classmates still couldn't write to save their lives. Granted, my grammar is not always perfect, but at least my writing is coherent and I spell most words correctly.
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If someone else is having science prereq trouble, you can enroll WITHOUT PREREQS at Ocean County College for any of their online sciences. I've taken 6 or 7 with them. SL offers many sciences to, but if you are unsure if your school would accept them, Ocean is a sure bet.
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Good info. Even though Central Texas College requires an entrance exam, they, too, offer a lot of courses without prerequisites.
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sanantone Wrote:Good info. Even though Central Texas College requires an entrance exam, they, too, offer a lot of courses without prerequisites.
An entrance exam? What's that like?
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07-21-2011, 08:36 PM
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SandraNC Wrote:An entrance exam? What's that like?
When I went there, they required the SAT, ACT, Accuplacer, etc.; but that was a few years ago. When I talk about prerequisites, they offer psychology courses that don't require Intro to Psychology and computer science courses that don't require a certain level of math. The college I'm attending now has prerequisites for almost everything except for entry level social science courses. You're exempt from having to take an entrance exam if you've been accepted to another Texas institution or if you're transferring in English, reading, and math intensive courses from any accredited college. My current CC doesn't require an entrance exam if you have more than 15 credits, but it's difficult to get into a lot of courses without previous math and English credits; and to get into college level math and English courses, you need scores from an entrance exam or remedial courses.
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It's too funny how the local cc's won't let you take a science course without their specific required math level. After thirty years (and fifteen science credits already accrued), my local cc advisor said "you can't take a science course (despite my 4.0 average) without first taking this math. It would have taken me another year to complete my A.S. if I had listened to her. Instead I took SL algebra and then signed up for the new eight hours of science I needed locally to get my A.S. Advisors have one thing in mind and that is to earn money for their schools.
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My friend sucked in math at my local CC, so I told him about SL he finished all his math with SL. Our local CC advisor said we accept ACE courses when I called her and asked. So my friend tried transferring the credit .. comes to find out this advisor didn't tell us the "we will only accept ACE credit if you belong in the military" part. Tough like eh?
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Excelsior954 Wrote:My friend sucked in math at my local CC, so I told him about SL he finished all his math with SL. Our local CC advisor said we accept ACE courses when I called her and asked. So my friend tried transferring the credit .. comes to find out this advisor didn't tell us the "we will only accept ACE credit if you belong in the military" part. Tough like eh?
Is that legal? Can they discriminate? It seems that their ACE policy should apply to everyone equally.
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SandraNC Wrote:Is that legal? Can they discriminate? It seems that their ACE policy should apply to everyone equally.
Of course it's legal. There are no laws covering what credit a college has to except. That's all in-house policy. Awarding ACE credit to military isn't discrimination, it's a criteria. Colleges can award ACE credit to students whose birthdays are odd numbers, are enrolled in X credits, live in district, are above/below a certain years outside of highschool, have taken/not taken x credits in a subject, and any other random criteria. None of that is discrimination.
In writing. Please get the policy in writing. An advisor can say anything they want. There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY and the advisor will ALWAYS win. (afterall, the student simply misunderstood our policy) Writing. Writing. Writing.
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