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I belong to sixteen High IQ societies. From here on out I am only interested in joining High IQ societies rated above Mensa.
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dewisant Wrote:I belong to sixteen High IQ societies. From here on out I am only interested in joining High IQ societies rated above Mensa.
Oh yeah, the thread's from 2009! Anyways, I don't think I can even get into Mensa... I wouldn't mind joining a society or two, basically thinking of a Psychology one when I start and then finish my Walden MS Psychology. Only time can tell... I haven't started the MS Psych yet!
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If a thread is more than a couple of years old, usually it's better to create a new thread.
I have taken a few of the online IQ tests though I forget my scores. It seems you could get trained on how to do the tests to score higher.
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(05-11-2022, 08:19 PM)LevelUP Wrote: If a thread is more than a couple of years old, usually it's better to create a new thread.
I have taken a few of the online IQ tests though I forget my scores. It seems you could get trained on how to do the tests to score higher.
Oh, indeed you can. You can buy books with many such tests, maybe 100 or so and instructions for practice to improve your score. With some people, it's a kind of hobby - like sudoku puzzles, only a bit more varied. My experience is that SOME of these "societies" - NOT including Mensa, are purely money-oriented and pretty much con-games, based on flattery. According to a couple I tried online, I am a gold-plated genius. That news was usually followed with a request for $75 to $200 for membership in the "society" and for a bit more, I could be inducted into the society's bogus "prestigious Think Tank." I never even considered giving 'em a single dollar. When I recognized the repeating pattern, I quit.
The con-man's best friend is an intelligent mark. The mark will "fill in the blanks" to make the scheme seem valid to them, if they like it. The scheme-operators play up to vanity - which is the easiest thing to appeal to. Works on almost everybody. I'm as vain as heck - and I can't really tell you why it never worked on me. Maybe I'm NOT SMART enough to "fill in the blanks" for the con-artist. Who knows?
Doesn't appeal to me. Too much like collecting phony degrees. I KNOW what my real IQ is through valid testing in a clinical setting and I also know how little the number really means, through a bit more than half-a-dozen psych courses in college and uni. I'm happy with that number. Don't need some money-hungry hack to pump up my ego.
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Online IQ tests are not entirely reliable. I had my son IQ tested when he was little. There was a whole section about fine motor skills that involved the psychologist observing him. It was 1/4 of the total score.
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(05-11-2022, 11:42 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Online IQ tests are not entirely reliable. I had my son IQ tested when he was little. There was a whole section about fine motor skills that involved the psychologist observing him. It was 1/4 of the total score.
Good to hear. Obviously, real psychologist - real test. And properly geared to your son's age. Well done, Mom!
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Being able to "train" on the IQ tests is part of why I never bothered with them. You're not showing how intelligent you are, just that you can pass a specific test. If I want to know that I can do that, all I need to do is look at my TESU transcripts.
(05-11-2022, 11:42 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Online IQ tests are not entirely reliable. I had my son IQ tested when he was little. There was a whole section about fine motor skills that involved the psychologist observing him. It was 1/4 of the total score.
That's kind of sad. By that, I mean that there are plenty of intelligent children who have something like cerebral palsy and lack in fine motor skills as a result. Historically, these children have been labeled as "slow" or "stupid", even when their brains worked fine. I would hope that the modern IQ tests for children would adjust for that, but I am not confident that they would.
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(05-12-2022, 12:10 AM)rachel83az Wrote: Being able to "train" on the IQ tests is part of why I never bothered with them. You're not showing how intelligent you are, just that you can pass a specific test. If I want to know that I can do that, all I need to do is look at my TESU transcripts.
(05-11-2022, 11:42 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Online IQ tests are not entirely reliable. I had my son IQ tested when he was little. There was a whole section about fine motor skills that involved the psychologist observing him. It was 1/4 of the total score.
That's kind of sad. By that, I mean that there are plenty of intelligent children who have something like cerebral palsy and lack in fine motor skills as a result. Historically, these children have been labeled as "slow" or "stupid", even when their brains worked fine. I would hope that the modern IQ tests for children would adjust for that, but I am not confident that they would.
I don’t think any real psychologist would ever use it like that at all. School Psychologists will use IQ tests as part of the ETR evaluation so they can help come up with a plan to provide appropriate instruction and accomodations on an IEP. It’s not used to imply a negative connotation of slow or stupid. Just to determine where the student is and how to best support them.
For us, it was just a part of an overall evaluation to figure out what my son was experiencing in school. His fine motor skills (processing speed, etc) was his lowest component as part of his ADHD. (So I guess in a way, similar to what you were referring to). He’s what you might call twice exceptional. ADHD with a high IQ. His ADHD limits his ability to get the grades he is capable of, and his high IQ prevents him from getting an IEP because he’s smart and doesn’t need specially designed instruction. It’s a battle I have been fighting for 10 years now. He’s been in private, public and charter schools.
I should add that the psychologist said that overall, his IQ score wouldn’t change… except the motor skills. She said that could be improved with maturity and the right supports.
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(05-11-2022, 06:39 PM)dewisant Wrote: I belong to sixteen High IQ societies. From here on out I am only interested in joining High IQ societies rated above Mensa.
I am... do you know of any new or good ones?
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