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DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - creationstory - 08-06-2021

So I ran into an issue... I was going for a second BS in CIS or FINANCE at TESU.  While getting all the required credits via an associates degree (which I earned in June), I completed all of my requirements for Finance but not CIS (except for Captstone).

So TESU emails me and says that because I earned an Associates Degree, all of my credits for my AOC, have to be brand new.  

I am very annoyed and upset as I spent a lot of time doing pre-recs and the sort.  

So now I have a few options, retake all the classes for the Area of Concentration, but I don't know what is the best venue to do this.

6 credits can be lower level, and 12 credits must be upper level.

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I prefer cleps and dsst but that is only 3 credits for what I need.  (,3 credits upper level (DSST - Management Info Sys))

I saw SOPHIA for one course in CIS.  (3 credits - 100 level)

I have an option for 3 credits at TEEX  (I believe 3 are upper level)

That is 9 credits.... with 3 being lower level

I need 3 credits in programming  (3 credits lower level) and 3 credits in Database 

SDC - There is DATABASE Management, which is 3 credits upper level

That gives me 9 credits lower upper level, and 6 credits lower level.  After this I need 1 more class.  Which I would love to have any help with.  




Now with Finance.....
I am see 
DSST Money and Banking - 3 upper level credits
DSST Principles of Finance - 3 credits lower level

I don't see anything else.  

Help please...




So after that I need

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - bjcheung77 - 08-06-2021

The easiest way to look into this is to get more details. What previous Associates and Bachelors did you get before this second Bachelors you're going for? Probably the best thing to do right now is to create a copy/paste screenshots or a PDF of your academic evaluation, it'll show what's missing and what's been taken before. You want to make sure all the information but your personal details are showing, I need to see what is in the "other field" and also in the "notes" at the bottom...

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - rachel83az - 08-06-2021

Not sure what you have already. Check out https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sample_TESU_General_Education_Requirements_Roadmap for possibilities. There are links to CIS and Finance suggestions.

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - creationstory - 08-06-2021

(08-06-2021, 12:55 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: The easiest way to look into this is to get more details.  

Finance (18SH: 12SH must be upper level)[b] (Not started)[/b]
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000

Topics include small business finance, public budgeting and finance, capital budgeting management, working capital management, security analysis and portfolio management (investments), planning and budgeting, monetary and fiscal policy, fund raising for non-profits.
For TESU and other course options, please contact an Advisor
**At least 12 semester hours must be at the 300/400 course level.

SH Earned: 0
Group 1[b] (Not started)[/b]
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes______
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3 credits needed
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3 credits needed
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3 credits needed
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3 credits needed

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Group 2[b] (Not started)[/b]
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__________
3 credits needed
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3 credits needed[/size][/size]

4: Electives (6sh)[b] (Waived)[/b]

5: Computer Inf Sys (18SH: 12SH must be upper level)[b] (Not started)[/b]
SH Earned: 0
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Complete all 3 subrequirements:

A: Programming 3SH[b] (Not started)[/b]
*must earn a grade of C/CR or better
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor
Source

Notes______

1 course needed
B: Systs Analy/Dsgn 3SH[b] (Not started)[/b]
*must earn a grade of C/CR or better
For TESU course options, go to CIS-320 Systems Analysis and Design I
Source

Notes______

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1 course needed
C: AOS Electives 12SH[b] (Not started)[/b]
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Within the Electives, 3 semester hours may be additional programming language credits.
For TESU and other course options, please contact an Advisor

**At least 12 semester hours (SH) within the 18SH Area of Study must be at the upper (300/400) level.**
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SH Earned: 0
Group 1[b] (Not started)[/b]
Source
Course
Title
Term
Grade
SH
TESU #
Notes______

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Group 2[b] (Not started)[/b]
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3 credits[/size][/size]
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Group 3[b] (Not started)[/b]
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[size=undefined][size=undefined]SECOND BACCALAUREATE DEGREE
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Students who wish to earn a second baccalaureate degree must complete a minimum of 24 additional credits in the area of study/core beyond the date the most recent degree was completed.

Courses completed beyond the date all prior degrees were completed will be labeled as "NEW". Capstone courses can be considered as 3 NEW credits under this policy.

The University will not award a third baccalaureate degree.

Graduates of TESU who are returning for a second degree should note that the capstone courses LIB-495 (for the TESU BA degrees) and APS-401 (for certain BSAST degrees) are degree-specific and therefore will have to be retaken and will count towards the required NEW credit.
[size=undefined][size=undefined]Based on University policy, all general education requirements, other than those considered specific degree requirements will be considered satisfied based on the completion of a first bachelor's degree from a Institutionally-accredited US institution. Your evaluation will show only those general education requirements that must be completed as part of your degree program.[/size][/size]
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[size=undefined][size=undefined]Previous degree  BA History, BS Natural Science (TESU)[/size][/size]
[size=undefined][size=undefined]After this AAS in Finance ....[/size][/size]

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - dfrecore - 08-06-2021

Either the person who sent you the email is wrong, or you're reading it wrong. You do NOT need all new courses after getting an AA - otherwise, what's the point in getting an AA? Makes no sense. I also just know from experience that this is completely untrue.

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - creationstory - 08-06-2021

(08-06-2021, 12:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Either the person who sent you the email is wrong, or you're reading it wrong.  You do NOT need all new courses after getting an AA - otherwise, what's the point in getting an AA?  Makes no sense. I also just know from experience that this is completely untrue.

I guess they are going by this


https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Academic-Policies/Degree-Policies/Award-of-Degrees

Earning a Second or Successive Baccalaureate Degree
Students who have earned a baccalaureate degree from TESU or an accredited institution recognized under the Thomas Edison State University Transfer Credit Policy and wish to earn an additional baccalaureate degree must:
  • Complete a minimum of 24 credits including the required capstone for the degree. These credits must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree. These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.

  • Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.


But if you could point to something else I would appreciate it.

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - dfrecore - 08-06-2021

(08-06-2021, 12:37 PM)creationstory Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Either the person who sent you the email is wrong, or you're reading it wrong.  You do NOT need all new courses after getting an AA - otherwise, what's the point in getting an AA?  Makes no sense. I also just know from experience that this is completely untrue.

I guess they are going by this


https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Academic-Policies/Degree-Policies/Award-of-Degrees

Earning a Second or Successive Baccalaureate Degree
Students who have earned a baccalaureate degree from TESU or an accredited institution recognized under the Thomas Edison State University Transfer Credit Policy and wish to earn an additional baccalaureate degree must:
  • Complete a minimum of 24 credits including the required capstone for the degree. These credits must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree. These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.

  • Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.


But if you could point to something else I would appreciate it.

This is for a second BACHELOR's degree - you said you got an ASSOCIATE's degree.

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - creationstory - 08-06-2021

(08-06-2021, 12:43 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:37 PM)creationstory Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Either the person who sent you the email is wrong, or you're reading it wrong.  You do NOT need all new courses after getting an AA - otherwise, what's the point in getting an AA?  Makes no sense. I also just know from experience that this is completely untrue.

I guess they are going by this


https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Academic-Policies/Degree-Policies/Award-of-Degrees

Earning a Second or Successive Baccalaureate Degree
Students who have earned a baccalaureate degree from TESU or an accredited institution recognized under the Thomas Edison State University Transfer Credit Policy and wish to earn an additional baccalaureate degree must:
  • Complete a minimum of 24 credits including the required capstone for the degree. These credits must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree. These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.

  • Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

But if you could point to something else I would appreciate it.

This is for a second BACHELOR's degree - you said you got an ASSOCIATE's degree.

i should have clarified
9t
BA History... BA Natural Science (TESU) ... AAS in Finance ... and now seeking another BS (TESU)  ... so third BS degree

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - dfrecore - 08-06-2021

(08-06-2021, 12:47 PM)creationstory Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:43 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:37 PM)creationstory Wrote:
(08-06-2021, 12:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Either the person who sent you the email is wrong, or you're reading it wrong.  You do NOT need all new courses after getting an AA - otherwise, what's the point in getting an AA?  Makes no sense. I also just know from experience that this is completely untrue.

I guess they are going by this


https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Academic-Policies/Degree-Policies/Award-of-Degrees

Earning a Second or Successive Baccalaureate Degree
Students who have earned a baccalaureate degree from TESU or an accredited institution recognized under the Thomas Edison State University Transfer Credit Policy and wish to earn an additional baccalaureate degree must:
  • Complete a minimum of 24 credits including the required capstone for the degree. These credits must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree. These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.

  • Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

But if you could point to something else I would appreciate it.

This is for a second BACHELOR's degree - you said you got an ASSOCIATE's degree.

i should have clarified
9t
BA History... BA Natural Science (TESU) ... AAS in Finance ... and now seeking another BS (TESU)  ... so third BS degree

You can't get a 3rd BA at TESU.  So all of the above is moot at this point.

RE: DAVAR, SOPHIA, COOPERSMITH, etc - bjcheung77 - 08-06-2021

That's a confusing post, without much details, we won't know how to help more. In your academic evaluation, it should indicate where your Associates and Bachelors are from. I assume the Associates is from another college/university, and maybe one of the Bachelors was from somewhere else as well OR, you have a BA History/BA Natural Science awarded as a double major for your previous degree at TESU. If you have two Bachelors degrees at TESU already, that's all they will allow. Email academic advising what your options are...