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RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - teejayb - 03-04-2023
Definitely has a steep tuition per credit hour and a very niche target group for an unknown school. Or maybe they know something I don't. Guess I'll stick with my UT-Rio Grande, Columbia Southern, or Lamar University for my MPA.
RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - withrown - 03-08-2023
(03-03-2023, 03:51 PM)teejayb Wrote: I got a response from the assistant director of admissions. You must have a bachelor's degree from at least 5 years ago. What an odd thing to require. My 8 years in public service and local government means nothing if I didn't get a degree before 2018 and then got experience.
I received the same response even using my work email. (I work in higher ed and tend to get more mileage when potential schools know that.) The credits at Marywood are pricey but an MPA in 2 semesters with enough credits to teach seems like a good deal to me.
RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - sarahmac - 03-08-2023
(03-03-2023, 05:51 PM)ss20ts Wrote:(03-03-2023, 01:42 PM)MrPanda Wrote: For comparison, the Master of Economics in Peru is composed of 23 courses, and it takes 2 years (after a 5 years bachelors).
23 courses would seem excessive for a US program, I think?
However, I understand that maybe economics and business are very different, and maybe those programs could be longer.
Yes that would be very excessive in the US. I've looked at MS in Econ here in the US and they were 36 credits. 23 grad courses in 2 years would be a lot of work. Are they 3 credit courses? That's a 69 credit master's which is odd.
Outside of the US 60 is fairly standard. The UK breaks it up into taught MSc and a research based MRes, each 30 US credits, to be done sequentially. Same with Oz. Unless you're doing something more applied like an MBA where you find 90 ECTS/45 US credit ones, mainland Europe its a 2-year 60 US credit/120 ECTS program where the thesis usually accounts for 30 ECTS, with typically 90/5 = 18 classes for the remaining credits.
I am not surprised to hear Peru is similar. I know several Latin American countries follow this model. It is one of the reasons those with a US masters sometimes struggle to get into PhD programs overseas. in the UK it is not so bad since they can just be asked to do an MRes or MPhil along the way, but where I am in Germany we've had several US students need do the 2 year masters--and they already had a 30 credit US masters--in order to gain access to the PhD program.
RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - newdegree - 03-08-2023
So I guess for this program you need a bachelors within the last 5 years which makes no sense to me but it is what it is. If anyone gets approved with a bachelors older then 5 years or a recent masters degree for admissions let us know.
RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - MrPanda - 03-08-2023
(03-08-2023, 06:10 PM)sarahmac Wrote:(03-03-2023, 05:51 PM)ss20ts Wrote:(03-03-2023, 01:42 PM)MrPanda Wrote: For comparison, the Master of Economics in Peru is composed of 23 courses, and it takes 2 years (after a 5 years bachelors).
23 courses would seem excessive for a US program, I think?
However, I understand that maybe economics and business are very different, and maybe those programs could be longer.
Yes that would be very excessive in the US. I've looked at MS in Econ here in the US and they were 36 credits. 23 grad courses in 2 years would be a lot of work. Are they 3 credit courses? That's a 69 credit master's which is odd.
Outside of the US 60 is fairly standard. The UK breaks it up into taught MSc and a research based MRes, each 30 US credits, to be done sequentially. Same with Oz. Unless you're doing something more applied like an MBA where you find 90 ECTS/45 US credit ones, mainland Europe its a 2-year 60 US credit/120 ECTS program where the thesis usually accounts for 30 ECTS, with typically 90/5 = 18 classes for the remaining credits.
I am not surprised to hear Peru is similar. I know several Latin American countries follow this model. It is one of the reasons those with a US masters sometimes struggle to get into PhD programs overseas. in the UK it is not so bad since they can just be asked to do an MRes or MPhil along the way, but where I am in Germany we've had several US students need do the 2 year masters--and they already had a 30 credit US masters--in order to gain access to the PhD program.
In Peru some masters take 2 years (where you only take courses), and after you complete all courses, you can start your thesis. And the thesis doesn´t grant credits.
In Portugal, there are different masters with differents lenghts, for example, the Master in Corporate Science at U. of Lisbon is 1 year of courses (60 ECTS) + thesis (30 ECTS), for total of 90 ECTS.
I have known of somebody with a US´s LLM that wanted to be a professor in Peru, but his degree didn´t qualify, because it didn´t have enough number of credits.
RE: Masters in less than 30 credit hours? - sanantone - 03-08-2023
(03-08-2023, 06:22 PM)newdegree Wrote: So I guess for this program you need a bachelors within the last 5 years which makes no sense to me but it is what it is. If anyone gets approved with a bachelors older then 5 years or a recent masters degree for admissions let us know.
No, you need at least five years of professional experience after earning a bachelor's degree.