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Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - Maniac Craniac - 10-16-2010
PonyGirl93 Wrote:Could not agree more. I really hate the name Excelsior.Can someone please explain what you mean by Excelsior sounding "millish?" It is a latin word... academia loves latin.
Buuuuut I voted meh on all counts, I'm not crazy about any of them. I suppose I like TESC best, but... yeah.
Mills have names like "American Global University" and, *GASP* "Breyer State College"
Of course, there are as many unique mill names as there are mills themselves, but we MUST not go there
BTW, I am not biased in favor of Excelsior. I'm not exactly bursting with school spirit over a place that did nothing more than collect my fees and print my degree.
EDIT: LOL, now THAT sounds millish. However, it is true. I took none of their courses, got no help on my ECE's and the rest of everything was through transfer credits. Adios Excelsior, thanks for making my transcript regionally accredited
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - blu2blu - 10-16-2010
Can someone please explain what you mean by Excelsior sounding "millish?" It is a latin word... academia loves latin.
That is exactly my problem. Its like someone said "name the school something latin that'll sound legit."
I have no real problem with DETC btw. I just don't see the point in working with a DETC/NA school that has residency requirements when I can just get a degree from an RA state school that has zero residency requirement. I want to get my BA without stepping foot inside a classroom or taking a class. Self directed learning is something I love and really don't like taking classes. Thankfully the big three allow us great flexibility.
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - Maniac Craniac - 10-17-2010
blu2blu Wrote:That is exactly my problem. Its like someone said "name the school something latin that'll sound legit."Oh, so the problem is that it sounds too legit? :roflol:
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - blu2blu - 10-17-2010
Maniac Craniac Wrote:Oh, so the problem is that it sounds too legit? :roflol:
No, completely the opposite. It sounds like someone picked a generic latin word off of a chart in an attempt to sound legit. Like they said "Everything in latin sounds grand and awe inspiring. Do you still have that latin dictionary?"
"Excelsior College" just does not sound good to me in any way shape or form. It sounds terrible. None of the names are perfect but EC should really have just stayed Regents.
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - motuterry - 10-17-2010
blu2blu Wrote:It sounds like someone picked a generic latin word off of a chart in an attempt to sound legit. Like they said "Everything in latin sounds grand and awe inspiring. Do you still have that latin dictionary?"
The college is located in Albany, NY, the state capital.
"Excelsior" is the state motto. Excelsior College is well known and respected in NYS. The previous name "Regents" gave the impression this private college was part of the SUNY system and therefore it was changed.
Some may indeed feel that Thomas Edison sounds more "legit". That may be the reason why a degree mill, Thomas A Edison College selected the name. This scam managed to fool a great number of people who confused it with Thomas Edison State College.
Perhaps the advantage of having a less popular name is being less of a target for scammers.
Regardless of name popularity, students should proud to have earned a degree from any of the big three.
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - MISin08 - 10-17-2010
motuterry Wrote:The college is located in Albany, NY, the state capital.
"Excelsior" is the state motto. Excelsior College is well known and respected in NYS.
It would be interesting to chart the growth in EC student body by students' state of residence, though military-based students might confound the data. Perhaps a tie to NY was more self-evident when they chose the name. [Totally tangential sidebar alert] I've been watching classic SNL on DVD recently and marveling at how much of the humor isn't funny unless you know -- or care -- about New York.
motuterry Wrote:The previous name "Regents" gave the impression this private college was part of the SUNY system and therefore it was changed.
Makes sense, I didn't know that. Thanks.
motuterry Wrote:Regardless of name popularity, students should proud to have earned a degree from any of the big three.
:iagree:
Phillip
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - blu2blu - 10-18-2010
motuterry Wrote:Some may indeed feel that Thomas Edison sounds more "legit". That may be the reason why a degree mill, Thomas A Edison College selected the name. This scam managed to fool a great number of people who confused it with Thomas Edison State College.
TESC's full name is Thomas A Edison State College. I am guessing the diploma mill did not know that when they used the name. They obviously went beyond trying to sound like a real school and just completely hijacked their name. My AAS says "Thomas A Edison State College."
All of the justification about Excelsior being some New York state motto is nice and all but I don't think anyone outside of New York would realize that, but most people have heard of Thomas Edison. Moreover I don't think most people outside of NY would know or care what SUNY is or if their school sounded like it might be a part of the SUNY system.
This gets me going on a whole new tangent. No one but New Yorkers care about New York! I am so sick of every movie and TV show being based in New York City. People in other nations probably think that 90% of our population lives in that place. NY can keep its socialist, left wing, anti gun ridiculousness to itself. I agree with the earlier posters comments about SNL humor. The writers of that show need to realize that although they may consider non-New Yorkers to be uneducated cavemen we do in fact have televisions.
But I digress...
motuterry Wrote:Regardless of name popularity, students should proud to have earned a degree from any of the big three.
True story.
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - PonyGirl93 - 10-18-2010
Maniac Craniac Wrote:Can someone please explain what you mean by Excelsior sounding "millish?" It is a latin word... academia loves latin.academia loves latin for their awards, their mottoes, and their slogans. Name me a handful of really well-reputed schools with latin names. Most of them are named after a big donor.
Mills have names like "American Global University" and, *GASP* "Breyer State College"
Of course, there are as many unique mill names as there are mills themselves, but we MUST not go there
BTW, I am not biased in favor of Excelsior. I'm not exactly bursting with school spirit over a place that did nothing more than collect my fees and print my degree.
EDIT: LOL, now THAT sounds millish. However, it is true. I took none of their courses, got no help on my ECE's and the rest of everything was through transfer credits. Adios Excelsior, thanks for making my transcript regionally accredited
I don't think that Excelsior sounds much more like a diploma mill than the other 2, I just think it sounds kind of cheesy :p
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - motuterry - 10-18-2010
blu2blu Wrote:TESC's full name is Thomas A Edison State College. I am guessing the diploma mill did not know that when they used the name. They obviously went beyond trying to sound like a real school and just completely hijacked their name. My AAS says "Thomas A Edison State College."
All of the justification about Excelsior being some New York state motto is nice and all but I don't think anyone outside of New York would realize that, but most people have heard of Thomas Edison. Moreover I don't think most people outside of NY would know or care what SUNY is or if their school sounded like it might be a part of the SUNY system.
This gets me going on a whole new tangent. No one but New Yorkers care about New York! I am so sick of every movie and TV show being based in New York City. People in other nations probably think that 90% of our population lives in that place. NY can keep its socialist, left wing, anti gun ridiculousness to itself. I agree with the earlier posters comments about SNL humor. The writers of that show need to realize that although they may consider non-New Yorkers to be uneducated cavemen we do in fact have televisions.
But I digress...
True story.
The purpose of my previous response was to address your statment "It sounds like someone picked a generic latin word off of a chart in an attempt to sound legit." I was not attempting to justify anything, I was attempting to educate. You may not like the name of the school but at least you now understand the name wasn't simply selected without purpose. I'm not sure how this then turned to a bashing New York City thread.
While you may be right that many uneducated in the world may think the bulk of the US population live in NYC, there is a sizable group of uneducated americans who think NYS is NYC. Im sure they would be surprised to discover that much of NYS is rural farm country. While NYC may be liberal, much of the rest of the State is not. I must say I have seen more gun loving right wing folks in NYS than I ever met when I lived in the south.
I have to contest your suggestion that people outside NYC or NYS don't care about the area. During 911, I lived in the south. I witnessed my friends, neighbors and co-workers donate money and time to help support their fellow americans in NYC. Conversely, I observed many New Yorkers donating and sacrificing to help aid their fellow citizens in New Orleans.
I feel fortunate that I have had the opportunity to work in and travel throughout much of the country. My experiences have altered my own misconceptions and ignorance of others.
Big 3: Nicest Sounding Name? - blu2blu - 10-18-2010
Quote:I don't think that Excelsior sounds much more like a diploma mill than the other 2, I just think it sounds kind of cheesy
This is pretty much what I have been trying to say the entire time, good work.
As for the New York bashing that came from me going completely off topic after reading the SNL comments and the Excelsior explanations. As for 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina those were national tragedies. The attacks were not a personal shot at NYC but America as a whole. Those are beyond the scope of this thread.
I visited some of my wife's family in "upstate" New York and while I agree it was rural you can't deny that NY is a blue state through and through. I couldn't order sweet tea in any of the restaurants but that's a personal complaint. Maybe that is where my dislike for NY comes in. Second digression: what the heck is "upstate" anyway? In my experience that means any place that isn't NYC. Is that true? No one ever says upstate California or upstate Florida. Weird. I did get the opportunity to meet some New York rednecks. Ever met a redneck with a New York accent? Hard not to smile, lol!
I grew up in Texas, the greatest nation on earth, so I'm inclined to not like any state. Don't take it personally.