opinions on SSBM DBA program?

[bjcheung77]

Their site now says they are ACBSP accredited and AACSB member and EduQua certified. They say ACBSP is certified by CHEA. Any further comments?

Please take the time to review the entire thread to get the overview and recommendations, here's my post #28 from last year: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid369644

[Harry101]

Their site now says they are ACBSP accredited and AACSB member and EduQua certified. They say ACBSP is certified by CHEA. Any further comments?

It is irrelevant if the Educational entity is not listed in the Swiss Ministry. You can finish it but as stated the question of recognizing the qualifications on the labor market is questionable to say the least. You need to list your degree for the verification process for each country you wish to use the degree.

Read more about this on;

https://single-market-economy.ec.europa....ractice_en <<Recognition professional qualifications

In EU and mostly in the World it is reliant on the so called ENIC-NARIC body which is using the highest government bodies to check on degrees and most employers look to it. So the outcome is going to be if SSBM Geneva is listed ;

https://www.swissuniversities.ch/en/topi...stitutions << Accredited Swiss higher education institutions

If not they (Swiss School of Business and Management) turn up on these type of news article;

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/sw...s/47786510 <<Swiss private universities issuing unrecognised degrees from back in 16.11.2022.

Which promoted action and why alot of the Schools went with the AAQ accreditation recently in Switzerland, Swiss Business School, IMD, Swiss UMEF in 2022. All new entries in the AAQ. And if the article seems to suggest the last date was 01.01.2023. remains to be seen what and how the State/Canton will act.

[Iurii]

Greetings,

I consider it my duty to share my real experience with SSBM, aiming to help future applicants make informed enrollment decisions. In 2022, I enrolled in the MBA program at the Geneva campus. Regrettably, due to the war in Ukraine, a travel ban from Ukraine on males was instituted. My admission process, contract signing, and the initial tuition payment were completed prior to this ban. Naturally, force majeure circumstances occurred, preventing me from coming to study in Geneva, and of course, I warned SSBM about this situation in advance.

Subsequently, I approached SSBM with the request for a refund for the education that, in my case, hadn't even begun. This stage left me very disappointed with SSBM's approach. While according to the contract SSBM may refund in my case, SSBM consistently found varied reasons to deny me, often failing to provide any substantial argumentation and neglecting to respond to my emails and reminders for weeks on end. The responses I received lacked any supporting rationale. The responses were without any argumentation, and it seemed like nobody was seriously addressing my questions; they were just responding in any way to get rid of me.

It's worth noting that I sent multiple appeals directly to the dean of the Geneva campus. Sadly, I received NO RESPONSE TO ANY OF MY EMAILS. All of this says a lot about the level of the business school, its approach to students, and from this experience, you can draw conclusions about what to expect during the study.

I didn't expect sympathy from SSBM representatives, but I did anticipate a professional approach and at least an attempt to resolve this issue considering the real circumstances that had arisen. Taking into account the level of communication, ignorance, and complete unwillingness to consider my case in essence and find a solution – I was simply disappointed and frankly shocked by such an approach. A respectable business school would not allow such conduct. The cost of the issue – 875 EUR, which the business school values more than its own reputation. To clarify – the business school decided to retain this fee for a service that was never provided.

My tuition was never refunded. Eventually, I ceased all communication with SSBM. The sole benefit I see in this situation is the opportunity to communicate this experience to prospective students.

[Harry101]

I am so sorry for your experience. I almost got in the same boat but thank the algoritham it recommended my google search the original degreeinfo post about SSBM.

I've spoken a year ago with the guys who made these posts;

https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/com...itzerland/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/com..._followup/

https://www.reddit.com/r/askswitzerland/..._shocking/

In hindsight you can find a lawyer to fight your case. A lot of people think just cause they signed a contract everything in it is enforceable, NO! It comes to the Judge/Court to make that decision. There are also technicalities if you signed it Online or in Person etc etc.

Also here a bit that might interest you;

2.4 Swiss Unfair Competition Act and Swiss Criminal Code
Swiss Criminal Code

Art. 146 Fraud

Any person who with a view to securing an unlawful gain for himself or another wilfully induces an erroneous belief in another person by false pretences or concealment of the truth, or wilfully reinforces an erroneous belief, and thus causes that person to act to the prejudice of his or another's financial interests, is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding five years or to a monetary penalty. If the offender acts for commercial gain, he is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding ten years or to a monetary penalty of not less than 90 daily penalty units.


Art. 151 Maliciously causing financial loss to another

Any person who without a view to gain, by making representations or suppressing information, wilfully misleads another or wilfully reinforces an erroneous belief with the result that the person in error acts in such a way that he or another incurs a financial loss is liable on complaint to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty.

Art. 251 Forgery of a document

Any person who with a view to causing financial loss or damage to the rights of another or in order to obtain an unlawful advantage for himself or another, produces a false document, falsifies a genuine document, uses the genuine signature or mark of another to produce a false document, falsely certifies or causes to be falsely certified a fact of legal significance or makes use of a false or falsified document in order to deceive, is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding five years or to a monetary penalty.In particularly minor cases, a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or a monetary penalty may be imposed.

Link to the original page; https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1988/223_223_223/en

Again thank you for sharing this info and the best thing would be contacting the people from Geneva Observer or RTS Swiss who wrote the original articles about dilpoma mills in Switzerland to share your story, or even contact people from your batch.
https://www.rts.ch/info/regions/geneve/1...uisse.html
https://www.thegenevaobserver.com/amp/to...s-diplomas

But i understand if you also want to leave this behind you.

[michaelbarbas]

Hello,

I am wondering the group's opinions and familiarity with the Swiss School of Business and Management DBA program that is offered through Upgrad (Indian education company I believe)? The total cost of the program is $11,000 USD although I believe the payment plan is only 6 months to 1 year. When I looked at the accreditation, they are accredited by Eduqua which is a Swiss quality certification for educational institutions. They state that on the following webpage https://www.ssbm.ch/accreditations-memberships/ that they are "members" of IACBE and ACBSP. Apparently, I have found out that there is a difference between the program being accredited by ACBSP and just being a member.

Any insight would be appreciated on the reputation of this program. The cost is affordable and it sounds good, but, I am skeptical as I have heard questionable things about the program and Upgrad seems kind of aggressive in calling me back so I am a little gun shy.


Thank you,

Education seeker

You are wrong. SSBM is not just a Member in ACBSP. The institution is fully Accredited by ACBSP since 2022: https://acbspsearch.org/Home/Details?instId=Inst4485. As your comment may mislead scholars or graduates or even institutions, you should request pardon from readers.

[bluebooger]

you should request pardon from readers.

no

[aimz]

Hello,

I am wondering the group's opinions and familiarity with the Swiss School of Business and Management DBA program that is offered through Upgrad (Indian education company I believe)? The total cost of the program is $11,000 USD although I believe the payment plan is only 6 months to 1 year. When I looked at the accreditation, they are accredited by Eduqua which is a Swiss quality certification for educational institutions. They state that on the following webpage https://www.ssbm.ch/accreditations-memberships/ that they are "members" of IACBE and ACBSP. Apparently, I have found out that there is a difference between the program being accredited by ACBSP and just being a member.

Any insight would be appreciated on the reputation of this program. The cost is affordable and it sounds good, but, I am skeptical as I have heard questionable things about the program and Upgrad seems kind of aggressive in calling me back so I am a little gun shy.


Thank you,

Education seeker

You are wrong. SSBM is not just a Member in ACBSP. The institution is fully Accredited by ACBSP since 2022: https://acbspsearch.org/Home/Details?instId=Inst4485. As your comment may mislead scholars or graduates or even institutions, you should request pardon from readers.

Not sure about the pardons but you are right about them being a member of ACBSP.

I am enrolled in the MBA (top up) and so far the experience has been excellent.

[bjcheung77]

Basically, I had to laugh at this one... especially in regards to being 'correct' and 'incorrect' plus the pardons for readers... You're replying to a two year old thread, many things would have happened. When SSBM was just a member two years ago, the poster is correct. Thus, you're being the person who is incorrect in addressing that properly... It's the same thing with posts of mine, it'll be correct at the time of writing, things change... it won't be up-to-date two/three years from now.