help ! about the new policy

[takamura]

hi I was planning on earning two BA in CS and math (in our country it is way  more valuable two BA than double major) but now it seems nearly impossible I'm from north Africa and our country is poor and the currency is very weak I was planning on doing sophia for the general ed and then study.com and other sources for the other credits and doing the corner stone and the capstone at tesu but this new policy messed up everything  ,also about the residency waiver 3000 dollars for every BA ? and what is the cheapest new plan ?? I heared about tel learning, every comment and information  is precious to me I'm a foreigner and our education system is very different and thank you very much for your time .

[rachel83az]

1. If you do CS and Math at the same time then it is considered ONE degree. This will make it slightly more difficult for you because the limit is 90 alternate credits per Bachelor's degree. Some of the math credits cannot be obtained via alternate credit (Calculus II & III), but I am not sure that one can easily do math & CS with the new policy.
2. Instead of getting the math bachelor's degree (which, as stated, can be expensive and logistically difficult to obtain), you might want to consider Computer Science + the ASNSM Mathematics. The ASNSM Math is considered a "free" degree; you only need to pay for a few extra classes in order to obtain it. As long as you graduate with both the CS degree and the ASNSM at the same time then you pay no additional fees to TESU.
3. Yes, the residency waiver is the same for every bachelor's degree. However, there is an option if you have sufficient time to devote to your studies. If you take 9 or more credits in one term then you pay a flat rate of $4639. This is less than the cost of 1 class + residency waiver. Because this is the case, I would suggest that you might want to take the following in ONE term (at the end of your degree process):

Capstone - 3 credits
Cornerstone - 3 credits
Jane Austen: Pride and Prejudice - 1 credit https://www2.tesu.edu/course.php?CourseCode=ENG-298&sem=
1 300-level CIS/COS course - 3 credits
2 easy Gen Ed 100-level courses - 6 credits
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Total: 16 credits for $4639. This allows you to avoid the residency waiver.
In addition, you would take the applied liberal arts mathematics TECEP for $150 (for the ASNSM Math) and the Network Technology TECEP for $225 (difficult, but possible), and 3 TEL Learning classes (3 x $200 = $600).

This would be the cheapest way to go about things. If you really want 2 degrees, I would suggest adding a BSBA CIS instead of math. This would not cost very much additional money.

[takamura]

1. If you do CS and Math at the same time then it is considered ONE degree. This will make it slightly more difficult for you because the limit is 90 alternate credits per Bachelor's degree. Some of the math credits cannot be obtained via alternate credit (Calculus II & III), but I am not sure that one can easily do math & CS with the new policy.
2. Instead of getting the math bachelor's degree (which, as stated, can be expensive and logistically difficult to obtain), you might want to consider Computer Science + the ASNSM Mathematics. The ASNSM Math is considered a "free" degree; you only need to pay for a few extra classes in order to obtain it. As long as you graduate with both the CS degree and the ASNSM at the same time then you pay no additional fees to TESU.
3. Yes, the residency waiver is the same for every bachelor's degree. However, there is an option if you have sufficient time to devote to your studies. If you take 9 or more credits in one term then you pay a flat rate of $4639. This is less than the cost of 1 class + residency waiver. Because this is the case, I would suggest that you might want to take the following in ONE term (at the end of your degree process):

Capstone - 3 credits
Cornerstone - 3 credits
Jane Austen: Pride and Prejudice - 1 credit https://www2.tesu.edu/course.php?CourseCode=ENG-298&sem=
1 300-level CIS/COS course - 3 credits
2 easy Gen Ed 100-level courses - 6 credits
------------------------
Total: 16 credits for $4639. This allows you to avoid the residency waiver.
In addition, you would take the applied liberal arts mathematics TECEP for $150 (for the ASNSM Math) and the Network Technology TECEP for $225 (difficult, but possible), and 3 TEL Learning classes (3 x $200 = $600).

This would be the cheapest way to go about things. If you really want 2 degrees, I would suggest adding a BSBA CIS instead of math. This would not cost very much additional money.

thank you very much my brother for taking the time to reply , from what I've understood its nearly impossible to do the math BA now my budget is very tight , so how about I do 24 credits at tell for 1600d and complete the genral eds with sophia and then for the other credit study.com and do at tesu the corner stone and the capstonee and pay the residency waiver 3000 dollars its still somehow around 6k witch is my max any help is appreciated bro any information and thank you very much.

[rachel83az]

Yes, you could do it that way. It would cost a bit more financially-speaking but it would probably be easier academically than taking 16 credits in one term. By the way, there is a degree plan on the wiki here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

[takamura]

Yes, you could do it that way. It would cost a bit more financially-speaking but it would probably be easier academically than taking 16 credits in one term. By the way, there is a degree plan on the wiki here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

thank you very much bro really appreciate it I will use all this knowledge you provided it and came up with a plan and I will post thanks again god bless you my brother.

[bjcheung77]

takamura, dude... how many Rachel's do you know that are men? <shrugs> who knows, some people have weird names, like Sandy and another with the name of Shannon... I know a couple of brothers with those name, but Rachel... come on now man...

Now, to answer your question... I'm not sure why you're focusing on TESU when money is tight, I would focus on getting your general education done and think about doing a Double Concentration at COSC instead, a BSGS with a Comp Sci/Math and then get a Masters or MBA degree instead of going to TESU.

The cheapest is to do the following: Take UExcels/TECEPS that are online vs TEL Learning or a community college as these are exams that can be done faster if you know the subject material. It's also cheaper but may/may not be easier than a course. I would do the lower level course exams through UExcel & TECEP, then a majority of your general education through Sophia.org and lastly take the upper level courses with Study.com

[LevelUP]

takamura, dude... how many Rachel's do you know that are men? <shrugs> who knows, some people have weird names, like Sandy and another with the name of Shannon... I know a couple of brothers with those name, but Rachel... come on now man...

Amen and A-woman.

[takamura]

takamura, dude... how many Rachel's do you know that are men? <shrugs> who knows, some people have weird names, like Sandy and another with the name of Shannon... I know a couple of brothers with those name, but Rachel... come on now man...

Now, to answer your question... I'm not sure why you're focusing on TESU when money is tight, I would focus on getting your general education done and think about doing a Double Concentration at COSC instead, a BSGS with a Comp Sci/Math and then get a Masters or MBA degree instead of going to TESU.

The cheapest is to do the following: Take UExcels/TECEPS that are online vs TEL Learning or a community college as these are exams that can be done faster if you know the subject material.  It's also cheaper but may/may not be easier than a course.  I would do the lower level course exams through UExcel & TECEP, then a majority of your general education through Sophia.org and lastly take the upper level courses with Study.com

thank you sir for your time to reply ,first I don't know the gender of the user and its an online forums so names can be anything and I'm from north Africa so I don't even know well American names and stuff , first of all I wanted a BS in CS and in math but since tesu offer ba I went that route but with this new policy its nearly impossible to do that (why two ba ? and not a double major ? in my country its way more valuable that way)so the bs in general study is not for me and with low value in my country ,probably I will only do a ba in CS unfortunately I will use al the info and post my plan and you can help me and again thank you very much sir.

[rachel83az]

While, as bjcheung77 notes, I am not a guy, I am not the type of person who gets hung up on such things in a text-based forum. I accept the terms "bro" or "brother" in the spirit in which they were given.

I completely understand not wanting to do a general degree. In some countries, a degree in anything at all is fine but, in others, it would be completely worthless. I still recommend the CS degree at TESU + the ASNSM Mathematics. It is just too bad that TESU does not offer an undergrad certificate in Mathematics but this is the next best thing.

[takamura]

While, as bjcheung77 notes, I am not a guy, I am not the type of person who gets hung up on such things in a text-based forum. I accept the terms "bro" or "brother" in the spirit in which they were given.

I completely understand not wanting to do a general degree. In some countries, a degree in anything at all is fine but, in others, it would be completely worthless. I still recommend the CS degree at TESU + the ASNSM Mathematics. It is just too bad that TESU does not offer an undergrad certificate in Mathematics but this is the next best thing.

very sorry my sister an honor to meet you my apologies (for ex: in my country the name Rayan is used for both men and women ) back to the main topic thank you all for your help so you suggested me to do the courses aside at Tesu aside of course the corner and the capstone ,are those one of the quickest to do or there is a certain order? and then from what I've read I can take those as challenge exams for 20 dollars each ??at strayer university :cis 255 operating systems mat-311 discrete mathematics ,cis 375 human computer interaction and Cs 210 system analysis and development,(now if this is true with the 16 credits at Tesu and 12 credits from strayer university I need only one Tecep and the 30 Ra credits are met) for the general Ed I will use Sophia(all of them except the foundations and college readiness?) and Instacert for the civic engagement and for the AOS of course SDC,second part if I want to add the ASNSM what should I do ?? and sis thank you very much for your time and effort this means a lot for me thanks again.