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05-22-2016, 06:30 PM
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In my Federal office its about fitting in! We rejected three Ph.D.'s in the interviews and the whole list. We do not care about where the degree comes from. We hired a MA degree that did fit in.:hurray:
Overall, we have three PAC-12 schools, 5 tiny religious based private colleges, and one online college employees in my office. No one here cares!cheersmate Fact, the most productive employees are not the PAC-12 types.
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"Cultural fit" can be quite an annoyance because it often trumps having the ability to do the best job.
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"Cultural fit" is the Ivy way. We pick on PRODUCTION not degrees.
sanantone Wrote:"Cultural fit" can be quite an annoyance because it often trumps having the ability to do the best job.
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Life Long Learning Wrote:"Cultural fit" is the Ivy way. We pick on PRODUCTION not degrees.
This is what you said, so I went off of that.
Life Long Learning Wrote:In my Federal office its about fitting in! We rejected three Ph.D.'s in the interviews and the whole list. We do not care about where the degree comes from. We hired a MA degree that did fit in.:hurray:
And, this.
Quote:Overall, we have three PAC-12 schools, 5 tiny religious based private colleges, and one online college employees in my office. No one here cares!cheersmate Fact, the most productive employees are not the PAC-12 types.
But, your department still hired three of them in comparison to only one person with the online degree.
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05-22-2016, 09:16 PM
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1/9 is 11% - Online
3/9 is 33% - State Large University's
5/9 is 56% - tiny religious based private colleges
0/9 Ivy Degrees
0/9 Elite Colleges
That is how it happened without caring for where ones degrees comes from. The interview is huge!
The five tiny religious based private colleges is the surprise for me as only one of them is even religious.hilarious This 5/9 alone proves we do not care!
What % of the 156 Million US Workforce has online degrees? I bet it is small overall?
I would vote (we all get a vote) to have another Excelsior College online degree employee if that person would be the most productive. We do not discriminate against them. We even had one former employee enrolled with TESU.
What is the demographics of your office by degree type?
"You'll never get a job with an online degree" is not true!
sanantone Wrote:But, your department still hired three of them in comparison to only one person with the online degree.
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05-23-2016, 12:16 AM
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Life Long Learning Wrote:What % of the 156 Million US Workforce has online degrees? I bet it is small overall?
That would have to be looked up, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how many people with online degrees applied to that particular department. I would guess that the federal government gets a disproportionate number of applications from graduates of online programs due to having a disproportionate number of military applicants. When it comes to veterans' preference, where the degree came from does not matter. In general, the federal government is not as picky as the private sector or even local and state governments. Some local and state departments won't consider people with degrees from NA schools.
Quote:What is the demographics of your office by degree type?
As far as I know, I'm the only person with a degree earned online. There are a few people working on their bachelor's online for higher pay. The others, who already have their bachelor's degrees, earned them on ground. The job only requires an associate's degree for those who are licensed because that's required by the state to become licensed. For those who are interns, they only need the 270 hours of addictions counseling coursework. I'm the second most educated person there behind the assistant director. Since the educational requirements are so low, I don't think it matters to them how the degree was earned. The turnover rate is so high, they can't afford to be picky. One of the CCJPs, who is working under a certification rather than a license, has a high school diploma or GED. In other words, my office is not a good place to look for any discrimination toward online degrees.
Quote:"You'll never get a job with an online degree" is not true!
Of course, it's not true. I think most people here know that. The better question is whether or not employers are generally less likely to hire someone with an online degree when they are aware of the degree being earned online. I don't think one can make a good generalization; it varies by industry and type of employer.
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If you mean NA = Nationally Accredited I would agree and my two careers would not accept them either. Regional Accreditation has been the Gov't standard.
sanantone Wrote:Some local and state departments won't consider people with degrees from NA schools.
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TESU has an agreement with UPS.cheersmate In my generation the UPS managers were less educated formally that the part-timers (we were all college kids). They wanted to hire from within (Brown culture) and they generally quit college after getting into management. I am glad to see TESU and UPS connected.
I have a close friend high up (Regional Manager) at Home Depot. Degrees are not expected. They are generally always also promoted from within (Orange Culture).
I am no expert on the private sector, but a few large service industry corporations I do know about. They generally just want any degree!
The other issue is being inside already. Employees who get an online degree with do well if they are good producers! Way better than outsiders who just have an online degree!
My best friend just retired from the State at $8000/month and only has a B&M AS degree! He was in the Blue Culture!
sanantone Wrote:. I don't think one can make a good generalization; it varies by industry and type of employer.
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Although I had 15 years of operations experience and an associates, I couldn't get an interview with Amazon because I did not have a four year degree.
Within 2 months of obtaining my bachelors from TESU, Amazon started the interview process resulting in a job offer which I accepted.
These facts disprove the claim by the OP's family: "you'll never get a job with an online degree"
Boom.
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I just want to say I have not read every single post on this thread so I may repeat information.
First off, your transcript wont have a difference between Online or In Class learning. Secondly, most employers will be impressed with earning a bachelors degree in less then 4 years. Seeing how the average in class bachelors is taking about 6 years to earn right now.
Lastly, I know people who have "Online" degrees with awesome jobs that make good money and the employer they are at was impressed with it. So I wouldn't worry about getting your degree this way because yeah for every one employer that might put their nose up to your resume, there is about 5 employers that will be impressed.
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